View Poll Results: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
The fact that the fuel refill door can be opened while driving
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The location of the ECO button
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55.56%
The difficulty required to use the AUX MP3 plug
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11.11%
Other, please let us know
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What is the dumbest part of the TCH?

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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I think the thing that bugs me the most is the fact that there are so many things that turn off ECO mode, instead of just temporarily overriding it. It really should be a "set it and forget it" thing, but it is not. And I don't like the fact that I had to make a custom DVD nav disk in order for my passenger to put in our destination while we are moving.
 
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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one thing i am learning in my three weeks with the car is that if the road is not flat then the car tends to pull which is horrible.
 
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by haroldo
The location of the ECO next to the fuel door which can open on the highway IS a problem.
If you attempt to turn on or off ECO and mistake the buttons, while foolishly keeping your eyes on the road, your fuel door will open.
I dont understand this, was it fixed in the '09?
I tried again, I pushed my fuel door button about 400 times from 80MPH all the way down to 5MPH and it did NOT open until I was stopped and in park...Am I just lucky?
 
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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either it was fixed, or presumably you have a US made vehicle (Japanese made don't open)
 
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_h
Yikes! I thought my shop visit was bad at 35 days. I hope you have a free rental car like I did. Depending on what state you live in, there may be a lemon-law applicable here, in case you want a new car instead of the one you have. I don't encourage that, but the choice may be yours.

If your name of nyc2socal means you moved to Southern California, and bought your TCH here in CA, I think the lemon law kicks in after 30 days.
Thanks Chris, unfortunately, it's not Toyota's fault, some one ran a red and creamed me. You can see more here.

Damage: $15K (evidently, total loss is 70%) I actually pick up the car tomorrow! 9 weeks.
 
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Actually, I wish the TCH had auto drivers side window up.
 
Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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I always thought that was a safety feature, so you don't inadvertently harm a person whose body part is in the track of the window. That's one feature I hope never comes to cars...an automatic guillotine.
 
Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tbone526
All this technology, but no memory seats???

What do you mean, "no memory seats"? My '07 TCH has it. The seats remember where they were when I stopped, and they remember to not to move.

( Just Kidding!! )
 
Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by haroldo
I always thought that was a safety feature, so you don't inadvertently harm a person whose body part is in the track of the window. That's one feature I hope never comes to cars...an automatic guillotine.
Not a problem. My Sienna and previous (to the TCH) Lexus both have auto-up, and both sense even the lightest obstruction, and go back down. I think they just stop if they sense an obstruction at less than half way up, but actually reverse if more closed when obstructed. I, too, miss this feature on the TCH.

Both the sensing and the multi-position switches add cost for auto-up windows. A non-auto window has a 3-position switch, while an auto-down window has a 4-position switch, and an auto-up/down has 5 positions. Sensors are needed for detecting the full down position of the window for auto-down, or both the up and down for full auto. Obstruction sensing is done with motor current monitoring.

-- Alan
 
Old Jul 10, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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As I surmised in another post, if you add all the goodies in your mid-priced version (Camry) what incentive is there to purchase the premium version (ES300)?
In addition, the cost of these features (if they were standard) would price some consumers out of the market.
I know there are other differences between the cars, but they don't want the cars to canibalize each other's market.
They need to maintain differences.
Lexus is sold to the luxury consumer, it adds all the goodies and charges for it.
Camry is sold to value conscious consumers who'd rather save a few bucks and not get the "automatic tushy wiper", etc.
 

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