EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
#61
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
I don't think there is a lean-burn. Anyway how are you using your trip meters? I mean, I use Trip A for tank mileage and Trip B for whatever. Like if I want to see exactly what FE I'm getting during a highway stretch, I reset Trip B, let it run one mile to be sure, and that's my instantaneous FE. I basically end up resetting Trip B every 40-80 miles and that lets me see how my most recent driving is doing.
There's no point in using one for lifetime mileage IMO since you can easily record that yourself.
There's no point in using one for lifetime mileage IMO since you can easily record that yourself.
#62
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by gonavy
The 'EV mode' sounds, from NASA's empirical evidence, to be doing exactly as intended- enable the slow-speed crawl through a parking lot, carpool dropoff, etc. It seems correct that it will not hold speed at 50mph, although that would be nice. The IMA+tiny pack as they exist just aren't meant for that- 20HP yes, but at what (drivetrain output) RPM and torque combination? Apparently not high enough for 50mph.
Originally Posted by gonavy
Two questions:
- At what speed does autostop engage (as in dead ICE, not just spinning with
valves shut) as you approach a stop?
- At what speed does autostop engage (as in dead ICE, not just spinning with
valves shut) as you approach a stop?
Originally Posted by gonavy
- I may have missed this in the specs or this thread, but can you start from a dead stop in EV-only?
Originally Posted by gonavy
It doesn't seem so- EV mode only works on the way down?
#63
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by moosh
In the brochure it says that in speeds under 35mph, with light throttle, that the gas engine's valves completely shut down and the electric motor takes over. (I'm typing off of memory, so my apologies if this isn't 100% correct.)
Originally Posted by moosh
My takeaway is that with cruise control (same as light throttle?) set at below 35mph that the 06 HCH should be at 100 MPG.
Have you tried cruise control set at below 35mph?
Have you tried cruise control set at below 35mph?
In my area, I don't have any true flat areas, so it's hard for me to say what a true steady state looks like. The ECU is constantly adjusting for the conditions though; I've seen it switch back and forth between zero fuel flow and ICE on as often as once per second, depending on how often I (or the CC) change the throttle position.
#64
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by gonavy
It is worthwhile to find out if cruise control under 35 will still allow electric-only, or if there is some sort of interlock that keeps the engine running with CC on. "Light throttle" means flat or downhill at steady speed- not accelerating, climbing a hill, pushing against a 30mph headwind, etc.
The benefit doesn't come from extended periods in EV mode, it's many little segments of EV mode that add up to give better average FE.
Last edited by NASAgineer; 11-21-2005 at 10:44 AM.
#65
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by gonavy
- At what speed does autostop engage (as in dead ICE, not just spinning with
valves shut) as you approach a stop?
valves shut) as you approach a stop?
By the way, letting the engine spin with the wheels is a good thing. What's bad is that the car activates regenerative braking whenever you release the gas pedal, causing the car to slow down slightly. Superior FE could be attained if one could activate a true coast (but still allowing the engine to spin).
One way is for the car to only use regenerative brakes when coasting if it detects it's on a downhill. The other is to make touching the gas pedal (while barely pressing it) disengage regenerative braking without starting up the engine.
Either one of those methods would be great. And the reason the car should arguably be allowed to use regenerative brakes without explicitly using the brake is that people will have to brake down large hills to maintain speed, but they're taught that that'll destroy them since it's bad with other cars. It'll be fine in the HCH but they won't know that. Also they wouldn't be expecting the car to speed up so much on downhills.
#67
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
The other is to make touching the gas pedal (while barely pressing it) disengage regenerative braking without starting up the engine.
#68
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by NASAgineer
In my area, I don't have any true flat areas,
#69
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by ElanC
Highway 101 between SJC and SFO is as flat as a pancake. 880 between SJC and OAK is almost as flat.
#70
Re: EV (electric-only) mode finally spotted in 06 HCH!
Originally Posted by NASAgineer
True, but both are also slow as molasses. Maybe I just need to get up early on Sunday to go do some tests