Resurrecting a 15 year old, 4 month out of service battery pack!

Old Sep 12, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Wait no youre right. Because gere is pack b from that side
 
Old Sep 12, 2017 | 08:53 AM
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Most Chinese sticks are green. IIRC, king kong uses blue. I'm nearly convinced you're seeing orange through translucent white, which gives it a pink hue.


I recommend discipline in this situation. I assume you want to do this as infrequently as possible - conduct exactly the same reconditioning cycles and testing you did on pack B.


IIRC, you only did one cycle on this pack due to time constraints.
 
Old Sep 12, 2017 | 08:55 AM
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Given the grime I see in that picture, I recommend you blast the pack with compressed air.
 
Old Sep 12, 2017 | 09:31 AM
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Curious.
Resting voltage on pack B was 151v when I reinstalled it. But the car is been idling charging it for about 6 minutes now and one bar on the battery gauge just popped up.
That appears to think that this battery was actually close to empty
 
Old Sep 12, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Does it load it to test it?
Or maybe just starting it read the 1 suboptimal tap.
Hmm. Stopped at only 4 bars. Not near half.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Resting 151V is pretty low. Nominal is 144V. At 144V resting the pack is essentially empty.


I assume that the 12V was disconnected for the install. This resets the BCM. The start-up process is to charge the pack and assess its response to determine the basis for the SoC computation.


What you describe is normal and good. If it had gone to full, it would indicate that a major tap imbalance was present. If you want to charge it higher before driving (I recommend this), rev and hold 3500rpm until you get to at least 1/2 capacity indicated.


Clearly, we know there are going to be problems, but you might get lucky and run IMA light free for a couple weeks.


You'll get best results with very conservative accels and moderate braking.
 
Old Sep 12, 2017 | 12:07 PM
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Rats... I was going to tell people battery packs with green were
BetterBatterys but that's a no go.

Mainly I'm just scared of abusing the good sticks for the sake of the not as good sticks in pack a.

I remember the one time I did Force the IMA light out on pack A was when I was headed down a pretty steep hill lasting more than a mile. Full regen from half until it stopped charging, light then goes out . Probably quite bad for the pack as far as normal op conditions but it was amusing that the abuse made it react that way.

Pack A is at 135v before anything, at least one tap at 8v with the highest at 15. Tiny bit imbalanced
 

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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 12:12 PM
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The car prevents any significant "abuse" based on tap ranges. Remember it's limiting it from 20-80% SoC, and the vast majority of the time, it's in a much tighter range around 65-75%.


The forced charging at idle is only about 4-5A, so even if the sticks are completely full at installation, that amount of charge isn't likely to cause any damage.
 
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The car prevents any significant "abuse" based on tap ranges. Remember it's limiting it from 20-80% SoC, and the vast majority of the time, it's in a much tighter range around 65-75%.
Pack A is being grid charged now, THAT is the fear of abuse, I had one tap still pretty high ( assuming that he was actually full he will need to pass enough to fill the rest of them even while being full the whole time himself)

lol pack B didn't last much past an up hill on ramp to the interstate before throwing IMA. It was only at 70% assist

Loaded the volts on 3 sticks drops 35% so me thinks that may have registered on a volt tap LOL
 

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