Of course you can, as long as you are not a Honda dealer yourself. I'm in San Diego as well and I see two Honda dealers in Chula Vista: Fuller and Tipton. Which one was it? I've seen some bad dealers around SD, for example Pacific Honda in Kearny Mesa that charges $2000 markup for a 2005 HCH (!). And that was back in July before the recent gas hike.

Therefore I've been in contact not just with some San Diego dealers but also with Los Angeles ones. Southern California is densely populated; it's foolish in my opinion not to take advantage of that by looking beyond just your own town. At the very least, there's Encinitas, Escondido, Carlsbad, Del Mar, etc.

 

IIRC, Consumer Reports has that information. For a nominal fee, they'll send you a printout showing MSRP & dealer cost for the car itself & all available options.

 

Not yet they don't, since the car hasn't been released yet. Honda's website will also have that information probably on October 5th.

 

That's funny you mention it... I live in SD too and know someone who bought from that Kearney Mesa dealership. He got an online price quote lower than MSRP and took it in and asked if they could match it.

The dealership had been charging other customers a few thousand over MSRP, and he quietly told the dealer he would not reveal how cheaply he was getting his.

I bought mine from Poway Honda for MSRP in 2004... seems really hard to negotiate in San Diego. I actually think you can get lower prices in LA...

 

Sure enough, I was able to negotiate $500 below MRSP on my '03 HCH when I got it BUT then they tagged on mandatory accesories that they wouldn't come off of and they ironically cost.....$500. The accesories were mud flaps, pinstripes (which I am about to remove), and some super wax (yeah right). I did however get 1.9% financing through Honda. It was a Civic only offer and I was surprised that it included the Hybrid model. I don't regret the amount paid at all.

 

A dealer I talked to today said that MSRP was going to be around 22,500$. Now maybe he was just trying to get me into the 06 LX they had for 17,500$ with an additional employee pricing discount of 900$. (Its getting to be the end of the month I guess.)

 

Ive spoken to my dealer about this. As the new Civics have been coming in. They have seen a $500 increase on invoice over last year, that they will admit to anyway.

With a so called published invoice of around $19.100 on a 05 CVT. That would put the 06 CVT some where around $19.600. So given my dealer will only add $364 to that number and a $50.00 doc fee. That would put us at about $20,014. I know I can get $300 out of them on hold back. So $19,714 looks to be a real number for us. Of course this is just a clac knowing how they do things and subject to change without notice.

So given market and gas prices i think worse case $20k for a price on a 06 hybrid.

They have 06 EX Sedan with Navi at $19,765, I cant see them selling a none navi hybrid for more than that. I could get that car at $19,450.

Im glad I have a dealer that belives in fare pricing and makes a good go off the thug tatics of so many other dealers.

They sell cars all over the nation. Theres a reason why,, yeah know.

This includes dest.

 

What dealer is this? I spoke with a dealer yesterday who quoted me 23,000-23,600 for HCH w/Nav, then he tried selling me on an EX.

 

Went to my dealer yesterday and ordered a new 06 HCH wih NAV system to be delivered the first week in January. We wrote in the order price will by MSRP.
He said he will get back to me when MSRP prices come out. We estimate cost will be close to $23K with Navigation.

Interesting thing they didn't even have to require a deposit, and at this point aren't too worried about a supply not meeting demand and I was first person to order an 06 HCH.

They did have a brochure which enabled me to pick colors. I picked the Metallic Pearl which is only comes with Hybrids.

 

Dealers are much better at pricing and selling product than most folks are at buying it.
The breakeven(gas price wise-ignore everything else) is about 100,000 miles if you have the choice between a Hybrid Civic-or Prius and an Accord.At $3/gal and a $3000 price difference(an Accord LX sedan can be easily bought for $20000-the Civic Hybrid maybe $23000-the Prius is maybe $24000+(with airbags).It will take 90,000 miles to break even-assuming 30 mpg vs 45 mpg).This assumes that you have the relatively simple choice-one or the other,and assuming your current vehicle is "done" and you need a new one.This isn't the usual situation.
The usual situation is more like this.You have a vehicle-maybe an accord,Corolla,Prizm.Camry that has 50,000 miles on it and is currently getting maybe 22.5 mpg average.You will get very,very little for this vehicle-maybe $12000 and that is being generous.Your price difference(between a $24000 Hybrid) is now $12000.The breakeven is now $12000/3 + X/45=X/22.5 -Breakeven-gasoline wise-is now 180,000 miles.Now this is ignoring the fact that you now have a vehicle with zero miles on the odometer,so it will be good for 50000 more miles.Depreciation on a $20000 vehicle is maybe 15 cents a mile-or $7500?.This should drop the breakeven to close to 100,000 miles once again,but you will have to put at least $12000 out of pocket(waaay more if you have a Corolla,any Ford-Chevy-Dodge-big SUV etc)
Dealers are clever.Breakeven is close to expected life expectancy of the vehicle(or at least how long you will keep it-100,000 miles).
Now most folks here will do the arithmetic,and be fully aware of this.Many won't and will just look at gas prices and mpg.Dealers will eat them alive,and in a panic they will drive up the demand for Hybrids.You folks will get them at the best possible prices-maybe MSRP and change-they are the folks who are paying-and have paid-$5000 over MSRP-a lot of $30,000 Prius were sold-and plenty of $3000+MSRP Prius and Civic H's will be sold.
Right now $$ wise,it is a draw-100,000 mile breakeven.
Now many-most-folks here have concerns for CO2 output,and the Hybrids pay off on that immediately.Really hard to price what that is worth.Thanks.Charlie