Let's save Ford - Who's in?
#21
12-12-2008, 02:42 PM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Of course, the FEH is far more fuel efficient than the HH.
Actually, Ford agreed with you above a certain weight - hence they dropped the initial plans for an Explorer hybrid in favor of a new 6 speed transmission.
#22
12-12-2008, 03:00 PM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Does kicking the US automakers when they are down make you fell like a big man?
#23
12-12-2008, 05:49 PM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Choosing not to buy their stock isn't kicking them and I don't "feel like a big man".
I do get to choose where I spend my money however. My business CAN be earned, and I don't "OWE" anything to someone who isn't interested in EARNING it.
It's actually the consumer that has been "kicked" by the US automakers and their dealers for many years, including me on my recent FEH order (my second feh in two years).
Your "it's not their fault" attitude is entertaining, it's everybody's fault but theirs isn't it...
Burn me once, shame on you.
Burn me twice, shame on me.
I do get to choose where I spend my money however. My business CAN be earned, and I don't "OWE" anything to someone who isn't interested in EARNING it.
It's actually the consumer that has been "kicked" by the US automakers and their dealers for many years, including me on my recent FEH order (my second feh in two years).
Your "it's not their fault" attitude is entertaining, it's everybody's fault but theirs isn't it...
Burn me once, shame on you.
Burn me twice, shame on me.
Last edited by 08FEH; 12-13-2008 at 04:17 AM.
#25
12-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
I guess someone forgot to inform Toyota, which uses the HSD in the Highlander Hybrid. Drat, did they blow it.
Of course, the FEH is far more fuel efficient than the HH.
Actually, Ford agreed with you above a certain weight - hence they dropped the initial plans for an Explorer hybrid in favor of a new 6 speed transmission.
Of course, the FEH is far more fuel efficient than the HH.
Actually, Ford agreed with you above a certain weight - hence they dropped the initial plans for an Explorer hybrid in favor of a new 6 speed transmission.
Toyota which uses the principle on their Highlander Hybrid. The Highlander Hybrid is listed at 4500lbs while the CX7 is at 3900 for the AWD version.
#26
12-13-2008, 07:09 AM
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Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Yes, where is Ross Perot when GM really has need of his management expertise.
Remember him, he was "AQUIRED" (via the Hughes "merger") and then FIRED ( with an EXTRAORDINARY golden parachute) from the GM board of directors because he said publically what he was saying to the GM board of directors who refused to listen.
Remember him, he was "AQUIRED" (via the Hughes "merger") and then FIRED ( with an EXTRAORDINARY golden parachute) from the GM board of directors because he said publically what he was saying to the GM board of directors who refused to listen.
#27
12-13-2008, 08:23 AM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Choosing not to buy their stock isn't kicking them and I don't "feel like a big man".
I do get to choose where I spend my money however. My business CAN be earned, and I don't "OWE" anything to someone who isn't interested in EARNING it.
It's actually the consumer that has been "kicked" by the US automakers and their dealers for many years, including me on my recent FEH order (my second feh in two years).
Your "it's not their fault" attitude is entertaining, it's everybody's fault but theirs isn't it...
Burn me once, shame on you.
Burn me twice, shame on me.
I do get to choose where I spend my money however. My business CAN be earned, and I don't "OWE" anything to someone who isn't interested in EARNING it.
It's actually the consumer that has been "kicked" by the US automakers and their dealers for many years, including me on my recent FEH order (my second feh in two years).
Your "it's not their fault" attitude is entertaining, it's everybody's fault but theirs isn't it...
Burn me once, shame on you.
Burn me twice, shame on me.
The US automakers have made mistakes, but they have also created the US middle class, providing a living wage, health care and a dignified retirement for millions of families that could not have otherwise enjoyed this security. And this applies not only to direct employees but to suppliers, dealers in every little town and all of the businesses that benefit from that cash flow.
I'm sorry about your problems, but you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Last edited by travelover; 12-13-2008 at 06:33 PM.
#28
12-13-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
"The US automakers created the middle class..."
No, the UAW "created" the middle class insofar as concerns the auto industry.
The workers would still be dirt poor if the auto makers had their way.
No, the UAW "created" the middle class insofar as concerns the auto industry.
The workers would still be dirt poor if the auto makers had their way.
#29
12-14-2008, 03:18 AM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Actually, Henry Ford should receive the bulk of the credit. As you recall, he started the process rolling in 1914 by paying his workers $5 per day which was more than double the rate that other workers were paid for manufacturing work and cutting the work week to 40 hours per week. The UAW should get credit for championing benefits such as sick leave and health insurance.
#30
12-14-2008, 04:53 AM
Re: Let's save Ford - Who's in?
Actually, Henry Ford should receive the bulk of the credit. As you recall, he started the process rolling in 1914 by paying his workers $5 per day which was more than double the rate that other workers were paid for manufacturing work and cutting the work week to 40 hours per week. The UAW should get credit for championing benefits such as sick leave and health insurance.
I need to stop reading this thread... I might learn something...
