Feh 2005 after 6 years sitting

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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 11:17 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 08:46 AM
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I emptied the fuel tank and put a new gas. I cleaned the old throttle body and replaced it. The car started up and I was able to move forward and back a couple minutes. The gas pedal responded and the rpm gauge moves well. Then it died.
Now, I have no check engine light, no code on the ecm, obd2,tcm. I have only the code b1239 for the rear door actuator, and the yellow wrench. So if I start the car, it shuts off with the wrench and the stop safely now message. And it says low state of charge at 317v.
Do you think that the door actuator can prevent the car to idle or move?
Thank you again for your help
 
Old Oct 28, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lancey
Do you think that the door actuator can prevent the car to idle or move?
Thank you again for your help
Yes, if the battery temperature is also high enough, it will shut the car down. Here is a video about replacing the actuator. I am surprised, though, that you're not seeing any other error codes in that instance. But if B1239 is showing and the actuator has failed, you will need to replace it *anyway*. It's only about $30 so you should do that first and then see what else happens.

 

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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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Also, here is the TSB (Ford Technical Service Bulletin) showing the part number of the actuator and also their recommendation for flashing (reprogramming) the BCM to reprogam the Traction Battery Control Module (TBCM). This procedure may have been done on your car by a dealership, maybe not.

https://www.escape-city.com/threads/...tc-b1239.1229/

NOTE: When you replace the actuator, you want to use the LATEST REVISION OF THE ASSEMBLY WITH THE "F" SUFFIX, not the earlier "E" suffix or any of the prior ones. This part was revised by Ford FIVE TIMES (apparently) because they kept failing. There are a lot of the older ones still out there, you want the most recent revision.

Here is a link to an -F suffix part,

8L8Z-19E616-F

Motor Assembly

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts...-19e616-f.html
 

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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lancey
Hello
I emptied the fuel tank and put a new gas. I cleaned the old throttle body and replaced it. The car started up and I was able to move forward and back a couple minutes. The gas pedal responded and the rpm gauge moves well. Then it died.
Now, I have no check engine light, no code on the ecm, obd2,tcm. I have only the code b1239 for the rear door actuator, and the yellow wrench. So if I start the car, it shuts off with the wrench and the stop safely now message. And it says low state of charge at 317v.
Do you think that the door actuator can prevent the car to idle or move?
Thank you again for your help
Blend door failure will not shut off the car. Excessive battery temps will, but it needs to be WELL NORTH of 100°F. I've seem them operational yet nearly crippled at 120°F.

What is your DEL_MOD_V value from the BCM?

 
Old Oct 28, 2021 | 01:02 PM
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Didn't you have this exact same problem with the same car back in 2018? Or is this a different 2005?

https://electricvehicleforums.com/fo...tml#post264894

You are in Guinea in Africa. Can you contact anyone at Ford Guinée?

https://www.facebook.com/fordguinee/
 

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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Yes Alex it’s the same one since 2015. I didn’t know about Ford Guinea and don’t think they have technician who know hybrid. I spent a lot of money before I got the forscan. I will change the actuator and see. I use forscan to manage and reset all the adaptions. The del mod v is 0.06v with koeo, when I start the car it goes up and I saw 1.8v
Thank you so much.
 
Old Oct 28, 2021 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lancey
Yes Alex it’s the same one since 2015. I didn’t know about Ford Guinea and don’t think they have technician who know hybrid. I spent a lot of money before I got the forscan. I will change the actuator and see. I use forscan to manage and reset all the adaptions. The del mod v is 0.06v with koeo, when I start the car it goes up and I saw 1.8v
Thank you so much.
And there you go. That's a hard fault. That value should never be over 0.4V with a healthy battery, typically never over 0.2V except under extreme load/charge. You likely have a failed cell somewhere in that battery. It will shut you down and cause stop safely now.

Since you've built a charger, here's what you should do on the battery:
  1. Open the top.
  2. Place a box fan face down blowing into the cells.
  3. Attach your charger. Input 8800mAh of charge to the battery (25 hours at 350mA).
  4. Try to start again.
If DEL_MOD_V still high under load, battery is faulty - dead cell.

Note that the above is a long shot.

IIRC, you've replaced this battery. If you still have the original, charge per the above and give it a try too.



 
Old Oct 28, 2021 | 04:40 PM
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Ok I will try to charge the original even I don't trust it. 1 year before the break down, I was not able to go on ev mode after 30mn starting. And it gives less than 1v.
I was thinking about discharging the spare one by connecting a lamp and then recharge it again.
Thank you
 
Old Oct 28, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lancey
Ok I will try to charge the original even I don't trust it. 1 year before the break down, I was not able to go on ev mode after 30mn starting. And it gives less than 1v.
I was thinking about discharging the spare one by connecting a lamp and then recharge it again.
Thank you
I'm not sure what you mean about the original "it gives less than 1V" - if you mean the DEL_MOD_V is less than 1V, then your original battery is better than the installed battery for certain.

DO NOT DISCHARGE THE BATTERY. The battery has already been deeply discharged, or you wouldn't have needed to charge it. There is nothing to be gained, and you run a risk of damaging any marginal cell(s) that might recover.

 


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