Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by freefiber
I'd vote that we keep this board clear of politics and conspiracy theories (or at least restrict them to "Anything Goes").
Agreed.

This is a minor issue but once there's an indication that it may have cost a family their lives, especially with the circumstances (being on the phone for help when it happened), obviously Toyota has to make their cars even more "idiot-proof" to try to compensate for any possible way owners, drivers, or random shifting might act to shift the mats in a way that could cause a problem. They can't afford not to, especially between the press they'll get and the litigious nature of American society these days.
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Unintended acceleration occurs in other brands, too.
I conducted an informal survey (I asked a handful of friends with non-Toyota cars if their floor mats shifted).
All said that it did (or could, if not secured properly).
This is not a Toyota specific issue (IMHO).
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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I didn't say it was, but until someone else has a highly-publicized crash attributable to this "known issue", they have little pressure to worry about for issuing recalls. Rest assured, if something like this came up in a Ford, Nissan, GM, or anybody else, they'd be the ones making a major recall. And I bet right now they're all already looking very closely at their own mat construction/installation to figure out how likely it is they'll ever have a problem.
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chestr
I didn't say it was, but until someone else has a highly-publicized crash attributable to this "known issue", they have little pressure to worry about for issuing recalls. Rest assured, if something like this came up in a Ford, Nissan, GM, or anybody else, they'd be the ones making a major recall. And I bet right now they're all already looking very closely at their own mat construction/installation to figure out how likely it is they'll ever have a problem.
You are exactly correct. Ford had this problem, caused by moisture in the cruise control computer back in the mid-90's. they stonewalled for over a year until one highly publicized case where a US Secret Service vehicle, on Presidential escort suddenly went full throttle and plowed through some bushes (lowercase b). Then SHAZAAM! A recall came out within a few days.

This time, apparently, a CHP officer and his family were involved, fatally. Now suddenly the problem is legitimate and worthy of a recall.

Just the way it goes I suppose.
 
Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by angle
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Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) announced today a major Safety Recall involving 134,900 Yaris units. The Toyota Yaris recall refers to vehicle sold in the United States and built from 2006 through 2007.

The Toyota Yaris is equipped with driver and front passenger seat belt pensioners that retract the seat belts in case of a crash. The reason for this Toyota Yaris recall is that the pretension er deployment may affect the sound insulating foam in the center pillar, following a collision.

Toyota will inform owners of the involved vehicles with a Safety Recall notification via first-class mail beginning in early February.
Uh......okaaaaay...
 
Old Nov 8, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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wow that is quite the recall
 
Old Nov 9, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by angle
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Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) announced today a major Safety Recall involving 134,900 Yaris units. The Toyota Yaris recall refers to vehicle sold in the United States and built from 2006 through 2007.

The Toyota Yaris is equipped with driver and front passenger seat belt pensioners that retract the seat belts in case of a crash. The reason for this Toyota Yaris recall is that the pretension er deployment may affect the sound insulating foam in the center pillar, following a collision.

Toyota will inform owners of the involved vehicles with a Safety Recall notification via first-class mail beginning in early February.
I think you meant "pre-tensioners". These are actually small explosive charges that are fired at the moment of impact. The force drives a slide downward that is connected to the seat belt. The point is to forcibly pin you tight to the back of the seat at the moment of impact, just for split second, mostly to prevent whiplash.

I wondered if the sound insulation is catching fire or smoldering... weird.
 
Old Nov 10, 2009 | 04:55 AM
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Has anyone experienced sudden acceleration in their TCH? Night line had a segment this week where a number of Toyota TCH and Prius owners did not have mats installed and they claim the electronic throttle control module is at fault. The mat issues may be a smokescreen.
 
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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A new recall was announced, please see this thread.

Just a suggestion, but to prevent duplicate postings and confusing threads, it's best to discuss the floor mat issues in this thread and (since it's a separate item) the pedal recall in the other thread.
 

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