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01-13-2008, 04:55 PM

rocket08

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by schmidtj

How long will it take (in todays guilt free society) for someone to sue a car-owner for intentionally defeating a safety mechanism? I can see a passenger not fastening his seatbelt, being involved in an accident and going through the front window and claiming he wasn't warned his seatbelt was not fastened. Lawyer finds the owner INTENTIONALLY defeated the warning mechanism and sues for (fill in the amount here) millions of dollars.
Actually it probably has already happened. I'm sure.

I think you got it all wrong.... No one is advocating not using seat belts, rather some of us want the chime to go away since its annoying as hell. I have two other cars from Toyota (a Lexus LS400 and an LX470), neither of which does this annoying chime. So why should I suffer this in my TCH? The idea of intentionally defeating the warning mechanism is really MUTE for two reasons: (1) the manufacturer provided the choice to the consumer, and (2) there is NO law that requires such a warning chime. Tough luck suing anyone for such frivolous excuse!

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01-13-2008, 07:45 PM

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by rocket08

Mickie, thanks so much for that list. It was real helpful. Armed with a print-out, I was able to show it to a dealership service people who then had no choice than to make all the changes to my default I wanted, including turning off the seat belt chime... Its now so blissful...

I ended up paying for a 1-hr service charge to have 5 settings changed. Sucks here in San Diego that all dealerships rip you off and won't do the little things to maintain good customer relationship. Its $96 I was glad to pay for the peace of mind having this stupid warning chime go away for ever.

Glad it worked out. Bummer about the cost...

You're welcome.

#33

01-14-2008, 04:16 AM

schmidtj

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by rocket08

I think you got it all wrong.... Tough luck suing anyone for such frivolous excuse!

I'm sure McDonalds thought the same thing when that women who chose to put the cup of coffee in her crotch sued them. She made out pretty well. All it takes is a sympathetic jury. And with the "deep pockets" mentality I can see not only the car owner but dealership and Toyota being vunerable.

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01-14-2008, 06:29 AM

mikieboyblue

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by schmidtj

Well, in that case there was wrong doing. If I am not mistaken, the McDonald's being sued kept the coffee 5 (or something like that) degrees hotter than spec in an attempt to not have to keep serving cold coffee.

I could be wrong, just thought I point out that difference.

Either way, it's all good!

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01-14-2008, 09:26 AM

rmorrow

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by mikieboyblue

You are correct, the actual complaint was that the coffee was being kept too hot (not sure by how many degrees), not that the customer wasn't warned that it is hot. It's amazing how things like this enter the popular mythology. McDonalds (and virtually every other north american fast food outlet) did respond partly by adding the warning labels to the coffee cups, but that was in addition to ensuring that the coffee was no longer being excessively heated.

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01-14-2008, 12:28 PM

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

if Toyota was concerned about a lawsuit they simply could have not included the alarm in the customizable features.

Now about that "I agree" screen...

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01-14-2008, 01:24 PM

acco20

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by n8kwx

if Toyota was concerned about a lawsuit they simply could have not included the alarm in the customizable features.

Now about that "I agree" screen...

I am quite sure the "I agree" screen is no longer used on the newest version of this GPS system. I think the newest version is 7.1.

#38

01-14-2008, 05:43 PM

rocket08

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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Originally Posted by acco20

I am quite sure the "I agree" screen is no longer used on the newest version of this GPS system. I think the newest version is 7.1.

Correct. It's gone in my '08 TCH, however, unfortunately, I still have to deal with it in my '99LS and '03 LX

Another "feature" I can live without from Toyota...

#39

01-14-2008, 06:03 PM

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

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passenger not fastening his seatbelt

Simple. If you ride in the front seat in my car you WILL be wearing the belt or I will remind you. This occurs before we ever leave the driveway.

#40

01-15-2008, 03:47 AM

haroldo

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Re: Seat belt warning alarm

I think it best to leave the alarm in place.
What if another set of drivers or passengers (future owners, family members, etc.) neglects to buckle up?
They'd miss the, very important, reminder.
If you typically put parcels on the seat, just connect the buckle.
I think the cost (injury to unbuckled passengers) far, far outweighs the inconvenience of reaching over and connecting the buckle (it only takes a few seconds).

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