Mysterious trunk door openings
#23
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
David: Can you rule out accidental opening/locking with the remote, i.e. fob kept in a place other than your pocket after you left the vehicle?
One other thing I forgot to mention, some time age, we were in the house an the alarm went off without any known reason. Again, the car was in the garage.
#24
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
Hycambrid: I thought it was an accident the first time when the trunk open while my wife was at work but this time it was no accident, cause unknown.
One other thing I forgot to mention, some time age, we were in the house an the alarm went off without any known reason. Again, the car was in the garage.
One other thing I forgot to mention, some time age, we were in the house an the alarm went off without any known reason. Again, the car was in the garage.
#25
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
rmorrow: The FOB was in a locker at my wife's work place when the trunk opened. At home, the FOB was on a coffee table, by the way, we have no kids at home now. Good idea but no payoff.
#26
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
I think there are two distinct issues here.
1. David is the first to report that trunk openings (and other events) occurred while the fob was located where it could not be accidentally triggered. To me, this is a very serious problem.
2. Others explain the unwanted openings as probable pocket accidents, backed by some experience. If such accidents are possible, I think that this is also a serious problem. The smart key system and remote openers were designed for convenience, but worrying about having a pocket accident that will expose your trunk to either the elements or thieves seems rather inconvenient to me. I don't want to use the manual key all the time, and I don't want to worry about storing the fob away from the danger zone of my pocket as soon as I exit the car.
Whatever the cause of unwanted openings, either accidents or some other reason -- or both, I'm counting on Toyota to solve the problem(s). Does the fob need to be redesigned? Re-engineered?
1. David is the first to report that trunk openings (and other events) occurred while the fob was located where it could not be accidentally triggered. To me, this is a very serious problem.
2. Others explain the unwanted openings as probable pocket accidents, backed by some experience. If such accidents are possible, I think that this is also a serious problem. The smart key system and remote openers were designed for convenience, but worrying about having a pocket accident that will expose your trunk to either the elements or thieves seems rather inconvenient to me. I don't want to use the manual key all the time, and I don't want to worry about storing the fob away from the danger zone of my pocket as soon as I exit the car.
Whatever the cause of unwanted openings, either accidents or some other reason -- or both, I'm counting on Toyota to solve the problem(s). Does the fob need to be redesigned? Re-engineered?
#27
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
I keep mine in a jacket pocket almost all the time (with other keys separate from the fob, separate keyring--fob has no keys attached to it). Since I rarely need to take it out, as long as I can keep it consistently on my person I'm fine. And it eliminates needing to make sure to transfer it from pocket to pocket except for seasonal/jacket changes. This cuts out most possible pressure-type events as there's nothing pushing against my stomach generally. I've never had any accidental button triggering while carrying it this way so far anyway. And that's going on 1.5 years.
#28
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
I think there are two distinct issues here.
1. David is the first to report that trunk openings (and other events) occurred while the fob was located where it could not be accidentally triggered. To me, this is a very serious problem.
2. Others explain the unwanted openings as probable pocket accidents, backed by some experience. If such accidents are possible, I think that this is also a serious problem. The smart key system and remote openers were designed for convenience, but worrying about having a pocket accident that will expose your trunk to either the elements or thieves seems rather inconvenient to me. I don't want to use the manual key all the time, and I don't want to worry about storing the fob away from the danger zone of my pocket as soon as I exit the car.
Whatever the cause of unwanted openings, either accidents or some other reason -- or both, I'm counting on Toyota to solve the problem(s). Does the fob need to be redesigned? Re-engineered?
1. David is the first to report that trunk openings (and other events) occurred while the fob was located where it could not be accidentally triggered. To me, this is a very serious problem.
2. Others explain the unwanted openings as probable pocket accidents, backed by some experience. If such accidents are possible, I think that this is also a serious problem. The smart key system and remote openers were designed for convenience, but worrying about having a pocket accident that will expose your trunk to either the elements or thieves seems rather inconvenient to me. I don't want to use the manual key all the time, and I don't want to worry about storing the fob away from the danger zone of my pocket as soon as I exit the car.
Whatever the cause of unwanted openings, either accidents or some other reason -- or both, I'm counting on Toyota to solve the problem(s). Does the fob need to be redesigned? Re-engineered?
As to 2. I've had remotes for my last three cars (the TCH is the first with smartkey), and I've frequently opened the trunk, set of the alarm, etc., with each one, due to "pocket accidents". I don't see that as a defect - I see it as user error, and deal with it.
#29
Re: Mysterious trunk door openings
I keep mine in a jacket pocket almost all the time (with other keys separate from the fob, separate keyring--fob has no keys attached to it). Since I rarely need to take it out, as long as I can keep it consistently on my person I'm fine. And it eliminates needing to make sure to transfer it from pocket to pocket except for seasonal/jacket changes. This cuts out most possible pressure-type events as there's nothing pushing against my stomach generally. I've never had any accidental button triggering while carrying it this way so far anyway. And that's going on 1.5 years.