Long Roadtrip?
#11
Re: Long Roadtrip?
Sooty — The ICE can be "off" (even though it's still kept spinning by MG1) at speeds above 64 km/h in the so-called "fuel-cut" mode. No gasoline is being fed to the ICE when this occurs. This is done to prevent MG1 from over-spinning, and the needed electrical power comes from MG2. It can occur when coasting at higher speeds, and even with the cruise control "on" when one encounters downhill slopes or rolling hills. It can be detected by the fact that the Fuel Efficiency gauge then reads precisely 0 L/100 km (or 60 mpg in the US version). ScanGauge correctly shows that the ICE is still spinning (at ~1000 rpm), but incorrectly reports that fuel is still being consumed at ~1L/h.
camrydan — I've never experienced a "jerk" with the cruise control "on," but on rolling hills there certainly are major power surges from the ICE caused by suboptimal controller design. Perhaps these are what you're calling "jerks?"
Stan
camrydan — I've never experienced a "jerk" with the cruise control "on," but on rolling hills there certainly are major power surges from the ICE caused by suboptimal controller design. Perhaps these are what you're calling "jerks?"
Stan
#13
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What amazes me the most from this post, however, is that your TCH still got 36mpg at that speed. Truly an amazing car...
#14
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Well, you bring up a good point. It probably was not "average" speed. It certainly was not average as per the computer, which I didn't check. Let's just say that it was a "common" speed.
#15
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Regarding "jerkiness", are you talking about forward surges, or side-to-side jerking of the steering wheel? If the latter, then this is a common problem for all 2007 Camry, and there is a TSB to address this in all 07 Toyota and Scion. Apparently, there is no consistency with how the factory aligned the car, so they will do an alignment for you for free under the TSB. You can see the TSB in this post:
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...40&postcount=8
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...40&postcount=8
#16
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I analyzed the cruise behavior, and it did a pretty good job of keeping the speed constant, but I am convinced that I would get better mileage with it turned off.
While on the straight-flat parts of I-95, I was getting 41.6 mpg. I have about 2500 miles on the car, and the original oil, so I hope to get better when I get more miles on it, and change to 0w20 synthetic.
Here was I don't quite understand: some members report mileage in the mid-40s, and others in the low 40s, both while on the highway using cruise control and doing about 70mph. Why would there be a difference, assuming that on the average, all hills and valleys on roads (over time) equal out? I would think that cruise would eliminate driving style differences.
Also, for the first time, the MFD mpg was exactly equal to the computed mpg when I filled up. Usually it is about 5-7% or so off (too low). I wonder why?
Last edited by abward; 04-03-2007 at 11:01 AM.
#17
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Well, I got 41.1, driving +5 on I-95
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While on the straight-flat parts of I-95, I was getting 41.6 mpg.
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Here was I don't quite understand: some members report mileage in the mid-40s, and others in the low 40s, both while on the highway using cruise control and doing about 70mph. Why would there be a difference, assuming that on the average, all hills and valleys on roads (over time) equal out? I would think that cruise would eliminate driving style differences.
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While on the straight-flat parts of I-95, I was getting 41.6 mpg.
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Here was I don't quite understand: some members report mileage in the mid-40s, and others in the low 40s, both while on the highway using cruise control and doing about 70mph. Why would there be a difference, assuming that on the average, all hills and valleys on roads (over time) equal out? I would think that cruise would eliminate driving style differences.
Hills, wind, rain, ambient air temperature, AC usage, number of passengers, road surface, tire pressure, driving style, etc all affect mileage. I drive I-15, mostly between 60 and 65mph, road surface is excellent - smoothed concrete, often in 70 to 80 degree temps. I've done as well as 46.5mpg, and as bad as 41mpg on the same road.
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