How to calculate MPG
#21
Re: How to calculate MPG
Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
OK, if you want to get technical, I should have said that I get worse city mileage than highway when driving a Prius, Civic Hybrid, Camry Hybrid, or any other car, and most if not everyone I know of gets similar results.
Again, I would like to tell you the HSD vehicle has a lot of possibilities to improve the city mileage.
Remember that Dan and his team achieved 110mpg(83% better than EPA city) by Prius last summer.
http://hybridcars.about.com/od/news/a/100mpgrecord.htm
Such record can't be achieved at highway speed.
Hope you'll learn how to drive TCH in city and achieve better mileage.
Ken@Japan
#22
Re: How to calculate MPG
The EPA highway test isn't done at highway speed, it's done between 24 and 60 mph, averaging 48 mph. It's meant to simulate a trip through suburban Ann Arbor, MI. It's not meant to simulate interstate driving.
BTW, most of my driving is done on the highway. City driving is 30-50% of each tank.
BTW, most of my driving is done on the highway. City driving is 30-50% of each tank.
#23
Re: How to calculate MPG
Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
The EPA highway test isn't done at highway speed, it's done between 24 and 60 mph, averaging 48 mph. It's meant to simulate a trip through suburban Ann Arbor, MI. It's not meant to simulate interstate driving.
I don't now about the TCH threshold, but Prius is a completely different animal between below and above 42 mph.
Ken@Japan
#24
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The Camry can stay in electric-only mode up to 42 mph. Who cares? The OP reported getting 31.5 mpg with surburban driving and posted asking why. I told him. You're getting way off the subject, Ken.
#25
Re: How to calculate MPG
Originally Posted by TCH Newby
My commute is very much in the city - lots of stop and go, hardly get above 40 for more than 30 seconds before hitting a stop sign or a stop light
That said, I find comfort in knowing that if my TCH got "only" 30 mpg, then my previous car would've probably gotten 20 mpg.
I've got about 350 miles on my TCH so I haven't had to fill it up yet. I'll be interested to see what that MPG turns out to be vs. the computer tank average.
#26
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Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
The Camry can stay in electric-only mode up to 42 mph. Who cares? The OP reported getting 31.5 mpg with surburban driving and posted asking why. I told him. You're getting way off the subject, Ken.
Many people, including you, experience the city mileage is worse than the highway's.
However, the EPA mileage shows the city mileage is better than highway's among the HSD(THS) vehicles.
For example, Prius is 60/51 and HCH is 49/51.
Above 42 mph, the ICE on the HDS(THS) vehicle is always spinning and almost no advantage from the conventional vehicle including Honda hybrids.
I would like to say to all HSD(THS) divers that please try to learn how to drive your vehicle in city(below 42 mph).
You drive your car, you are not driven by your car.
Ken@Japan
#27
Re: How to calculate MPG
As one who achieved 80+ MPG for about 16 minutes (about 4.5 miles of driving) in the city with about a dozen starts/stops, on my TCH's first tank of gas, I can safely say there is room to boost your 31ish MPG average.
However, with that being said, most of the time I'm getting 36 to 40 MPG in the city. I've found that the biggest difference between my getting GOOD mileage and GREAT mileage is the technique I use. Most of the time, it's just not worth my trouble to get the extra MPGs.
Still, my first tank average was 36+ MPG, and my second tank is currently averaging over 40 MPG. There is a learning curve. I enjoy seeing how much of my driving time can be accomplished on batteries alone. However, when I have a passenger with me, I save them the agony of my miserliness and just drive like everyone else.
However, with that being said, most of the time I'm getting 36 to 40 MPG in the city. I've found that the biggest difference between my getting GOOD mileage and GREAT mileage is the technique I use. Most of the time, it's just not worth my trouble to get the extra MPGs.
Still, my first tank average was 36+ MPG, and my second tank is currently averaging over 40 MPG. There is a learning curve. I enjoy seeing how much of my driving time can be accomplished on batteries alone. However, when I have a passenger with me, I save them the agony of my miserliness and just drive like everyone else.
#28
Re: How to calculate MPG
Originally Posted by ken1784
However, the EPA mileage shows the city mileage is better than highway's among the HSD(THS) vehicles.
Above 42 mph, the ICE on the HDS(THS) vehicle is always spinning and almost no advantage from the conventional vehicle including Honda hybrids.
I would like to say to all HSD(THS) divers that please try to learn how to drive your vehicle in city(below 42 mph).
You drive your car, you are not driven by your car.
You drive your car, you are not driven by your car.
Of course, driving in Japan may be different?
#29
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As one who achieved 80+ MPG for about 16 minutes (about 4.5 miles of driving) in the city with about a dozen starts/stops, on my TCH's first tank of gas, I can safely say there is room to boost your 31ish MPG average.
How do you calculate the 80+ MPG in 16 minutes? My non-NAV display will only show ECO drive level up to 40 MPG.
However, with that being said, most of the time I'm getting 36 to 40 MPG in the city. I've found that the biggest difference between my getting GOOD mileage and GREAT mileage is the technique I use. Most of the time, it's just not worth my trouble to get the extra MPGs.
Pulse and Glide? Can you point me to some of these techniques so I can study up and practice? (Remember - I'm a newby )
How do you calculate the 80+ MPG in 16 minutes? My non-NAV display will only show ECO drive level up to 40 MPG.
However, with that being said, most of the time I'm getting 36 to 40 MPG in the city. I've found that the biggest difference between my getting GOOD mileage and GREAT mileage is the technique I use. Most of the time, it's just not worth my trouble to get the extra MPGs.
Pulse and Glide? Can you point me to some of these techniques so I can study up and practice? (Remember - I'm a newby )
#30
Re: How to calculate MPG
In order to maintain consistancy from tank to tank, how do you fill your car?
Do you add gas until it automatically turns off at the pump the first time? or Do you add several times, topping off to get the tank to the maximum?
Do you add gas until it automatically turns off at the pump the first time? or Do you add several times, topping off to get the tank to the maximum?