What octane rated fuel do you use?
Danny, I don't think a higher compression engine takes advantage of something in higher octane gas. My understanding:
Higher octane gas is primarly different in that it's harder to ignite. This is a requirement for higher compression engines where there is an increased likelyhood of glowing carbon deposits (or whatever) pre-igniting the fuel/air mixture before the sparkplug does (causing knocking or backfire).
Bottom line: if you don't have a high compression engine, and your owners manual recommends regular octane, and you're not experiencing pinging/knocking, higher octane fuel is a waste of money.
Higher octane gas is primarly different in that it's harder to ignite. This is a requirement for higher compression engines where there is an increased likelyhood of glowing carbon deposits (or whatever) pre-igniting the fuel/air mixture before the sparkplug does (causing knocking or backfire).
Bottom line: if you don't have a high compression engine, and your owners manual recommends regular octane, and you're not experiencing pinging/knocking, higher octane fuel is a waste of money.
Last edited by Mendel Leisk; May 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM.
Well in my TCH I was getting some knock under load in hot weather. I switched to 89 octane and the engine feels livelier and I will only get an almost inaudible ping here and there (Toy manual states this is normal.) I think timing was greatly retarded with the 87, much less so using 89. Night and day. I ran a tank of 87 awhile ago and the engine clearly felt "dead". Couldn't wait to burn it off.
The manual recommends "at least" 87 octane - intesting way to put it.
12.5:1 compression ratio.
Not sure about the Nissan specs.
The manual recommends "at least" 87 octane - intesting way to put it.
12.5:1 compression ratio.
Not sure about the Nissan specs.
The NAH has a 9.6:1 ratio. That's the same as the conventional Nissan Altima and Toyota Camry engines. The TCH has a modified atkinson cycle engine which has a lower compression at slower speed and light load and then raises the compression under load - similar to what you described.
I don't see the advantage of this if you have to use a higher octane to eliminate the pinging. Are all TCH's like this or could you have a problem with carbon deposits or your timing might be off?
I don't see the advantage of this if you have to use a higher octane to eliminate the pinging. Are all TCH's like this or could you have a problem with carbon deposits or your timing might be off?
Last edited by lloyd123; May 3, 2009 at 03:22 PM.
I just mean that it can unlock the potential of the higher octane gas into useful work.
Filled up with 93 on the tank I just started. After 100miles, I am seeing 49mpg+ on my car's gauge. This is about 3mpg than I saw on my last tank. Of course, it's too soon to know for sure. I'll report back when I get through the tank.
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Last edited by cephraim; May 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM.
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