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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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A rapper with her hat to one side?
That's one interpretation... that or someone with the baseball cap on backwards (bill facing their back).

There are tons of these on the Net and I'm sad to say I probably used 90% of them over my years in the BBS world.
 
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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As I mentioned before www.realclimate.org is good source for climate science and has it's own ongoing discussion of "An inconvenient Truth". Be warned the discussion could take days to read.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...ovie/#more-299
 
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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Alright, guys. Back on topic or we'll have to close the thread.
 
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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I have not seen the movie, and I'm closer on the continuum to Al Gore than that "They call it pollution, we call it life" group in my own feelings on the subject of global warming



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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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So worthywads, did you see the movie Sunday? What did you think? I've been trying to find other people who've seen it around here to discuss it with, but no luck so far. It hit #9 in weekend box office the weekend I went to see it, despite only running in a ridiculously small number of theatres, and it seems to have expanded its distribution some since then because it has high per-theatre ticket sales.

It seems to me like a movie that people would go see, so I hope it breaks the top ten again next week (the past two weeks it's been 11 and 12). If it gets more press, then good, but it hasn't had much advertising so far and it's doing all right. For documentaries, box office is all about staying power, not a big flash and then fade out. I'm expecting that it will do more than just make the rounds of art houses, though- it even popped up at the local AMC 30, which is a thrill. I've seen it already, but maybe if I talk it up at work, some other people will go, too, now that it's nearby.
 
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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So worthywads, did you see the movie Sunday?
I sure did, and actually enjoyed it for the most part. I've followed the science for a long time so this was more of a review for me but it was well done. What me and my wife talked about after the movie had more to do with her speculation on Gore's intentions. We both were suspect about Gore's personal reflections and childhood memories. I honestly don't think he's gearing up for the presidency this time around, but my wife thinks he's obviously trying to show a lighter personal side. The more I think about how much time was devoted to Al Gore though, the more the movie seemed to have a self promoting aspect.

He did do well keeping it non-partisan though it was obvious he thinks no republican will openly take GW serious. I don't think many democrats are with Al right now either though.

The co2/temp chart where he jumped on the lift and elevated to 2050 way off the chart was effective.

I was surprised how loud the gasps and murmurs were when the graph of US FE standards versus other countries came up. Yes our big 2-1/2 bet on low gas prices and demand for gas guzzlers once again and lost. I'd like to see the chinese vehicles that meet their standard. I'm guessing they fall way short of passing US minimum vehicle standards on every other aspect including emissions. Still comes down to vehicle choice, and the higher the price of gas the less important theCAFE numbers become as the high FE cars sell themselves.

I didn't care for any of the cartoons, I'd rather have seen real footage of a male polar bear killing and eating a female that just gave birth.

Apparently nuclear energy isn't part of Al's solution, there's one area we could learn from the French.

My wife has been dropping me off at work with my bike each morning, an extra 2 miles added to her commute, and then I bike home. Today I biked to work, and plan on continuing the rest of the summer, we'll see how that goes.

It's widely available around the Denver area right now, I saw it at an AMC 24 though it was in a smaller room and was maybe 1/2 full. Only 4 showings per day.
 

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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There was enough promotion of himself to make one wonder if his goal is simply to bring awarness to Global Warming. I do think his presentation was very effective in making a case - excellent movie. The charts and the glacial melt pictures over decades are some of the biggest exclaimation marks....

A couple of times, Al Gore is driving to his farm in an SUV, making me very curious of what he was driving. Someone that saw it thought it was probably a Toyota Highlander.
 
Old Jun 20, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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I saw the movie twice and keep seeing post about Gore's intentions. I think it's fairly simple to bring awareness of this problem that has been know for some time. One scence in the movie that is classic gold bars vs. the planet. Then the line "It's hard for someone to understand if there job depends on them not understanding it". After watching the movie I felt better about purchasing the HCH and having compact flourescent lights throughout my place. This is the first movie in years that I have paid to see as I normally get in free. First time paid, second time with the other half was free. It's funny the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"(<--global warming) and "Farenheit 9/11"(<--business, politics and oil) fit in with the movie. If you haven't seen the movie give it a chance.
 
Old Jun 20, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Then the line "It's hard for someone to understand if there job depends on them not understanding it".
It's just human nature that if you have a vested interest in something, you're perspective could be distorted. For instance, believing your son is not a discipline problem in class. A lot of Dallas Maverick fans are saying the refs have it in for them....
 
Old Jun 20, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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yeah, I loved the scene with the scale that had gold bars on one side and the earth on the other. I thought all the visuals and the jokey remarks were very effective and got the points through in memorable ways. Yes, it seemed kind of silly when he got up on that lift, but it's an image that sticks in the mind.

I really felt that when Al Gore made the story personal, he was emphasizing the ways in which the issue of global warming can affect us all at home. It's not just a theoretical concept out there in the academic wilds of imagination, to be discussed only in schoolrooms and documentaries before you go home to your comfortable life. It's personal to him- as personal as the health of his son and the death of his sister.

The parallel with the smoking problem and the way his family had a history of contributing to the tobacco industry that killed his sister fit in well; it made you think that we are all culpable for the global warming problem, and yes, people like his sister are casualties already, but the answer isn't to deny responsibility. It's to change your ways- immediately if not sooner. If you're part of the problem, then stop being part of the problem and become a part of the solution. The first step is to acknowledge it, but then you have to convince other people to acknowledge it, too, and soon, our efforts will snowball. I thought it was a very hopeful movie, in the end.

So yes, I drive a hybrid. And I'm going to take on as one of my jobs the goal of convincing other people to buy hybrids, too, and replace their lightbulbs with CFs and call Congress, vote environmental and as many other things as I can get going. You should, too.
 

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