Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
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Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
See hybrid for smaller vehicles, pushing ahead with diesel technology to bring it to US market without SCR reduction catalysts.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...nes_.html#more
Quite a turn around, they've been utterly opposed to diesel-tech for years!
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...nes_.html#more
Quite a turn around, they've been utterly opposed to diesel-tech for years!
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
With the new cleaner diesel standards taking effect, you will see a lot of this in the next couple of years. Honda has made great diesels overseas for awhile. A diesel CR-V might make more sense than a hybrid CR-V
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
Originally Posted by Archslater
With the new cleaner diesel standards taking effect, you will see a lot of this in the next couple of years. Honda has made great diesels overseas for awhile. A diesel CR-V might make more sense than a hybrid CR-V
Bob Wilson
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
Originally Posted by bwilson4web
A diesel-hybrid CR-V trumps both.
Bob Wilson
Bob Wilson
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
It won't come soon enough for me ... well on the other hand, its probably not going to end up in the vehicle I want anyway? It sure would be nice to have a Pilot styled vehicle capable of traveling American highways with American sized kids and luggage and still get decent mileage. Currently I drive the VW TDI (45mpg) everywhere but suffer under 22mpg in the Honda Pilot when we need a 3rd row or to travel in snow. Some manufacturer has to recognize that there are a few here that would like a 30+ mpg 'car-like' SUV. (I know, I know ... the minivan is a wonderful family vehicle. Been there done that ... if you know what I mean)
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
Originally Posted by livvie
If a diesel can get the FE of a hybrid, why bother with a hybrid.
The answer is pollution right now. Until the "clean diesel" engines make it to the USA, with Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel available at 100% of the USA gas stations which sell diesel, and the advanced technology diesel Particulate Matter filters in place, and ALL 50 states allowing the sale of "new" diesel passenger cars, then diesel is far more polluting than hybrids.
My dream car is a 5-passenger sedan, DIESEL ELECTRIC PLUG-IN hybrid which gets 80 MPG in hybrid mode and gets about 60 miles in EV mode before starting the engine.
For less than $35,000. I'd trade my TCH on that car TODAY.
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
Originally Posted by Orcrone
How about a plug-in diesel-hybrid CR-V? Get a full tank from the dealer and trade it in with the same fuel.
short range EV - any distance is OK and preferably as option packages: (1) 1-2 mile standard, (2) 20 miles, option 1, (3) 40 miles, option 2 . . . Make the EV battery assembly for the options something that can be installed and removed so on a vacation or towing, the extra weight and space is available for luggage and sundries.
hybrid transmission - regenerative braking and provides standard EV mode.
diesel - sized for a sustained top speed of say 90 mph, turbo charged of course. Have optional tow package sized engine too. Also, needs an optional E100 and natural gas fuel capability.
exhaust heat recovery - provides auxillary cabin heating in the winter and uses ammonium absorbtion cooling cycle in the summer.
double-walled roof and light sensitive glass - tints the windows in sunlight and keeps the radiant heat out of the cabin.
radar assisted brakes, horn and cruise control - allows safe drafting of simularly equipped vehicles and trucks. Also, sounds the horn prior to a collision, automaticly.
rear view cameras - only one cabin, rear view mirror and the rest use low-profile, rear view cameras. Optional, front view, low-light camera for assisted night driving.
Now we're talking a serious 21st century vehicle.
Bob Wilson
Last edited by bwilson4web; 08-10-2006 at 08:37 AM. Reason: refined the design
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Re: Honda moving towards diesel over hybrid
The entire article can be read on WWW.HondaNews.com.
Here is the article url
http://hondanews.com/CatID1000?mid=2...50254&mime=asc
Mike
Here is the article url
http://hondanews.com/CatID1000?mid=2...50254&mime=asc
Mike