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body is preaching to the sinners.

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Thanks, DF. And good to hear you're pounding the pavement. Gotta stay active.

 

hmmmmmm.... 4 dollars?


http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/12/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

 

Lower gas prices help the economy, businesses and families to name a few, and I always try and be optimistic. It's wonderful that prices have come down
some.
But we've all witnessed a staircase of prices, and given time it's always an upward climb. I bought my fuel efficient car back in Jan 2004 just as prices reached $1.24- I was conserned prices may reach over $2. Here we are only 3 short years later.

Count me as a believer of +4.00 /g which looms just over the horizon.

 

The Fourth of July and vacations are ahead - the price reprieve is probably going to be short-lived.

 

Filled up (2.6g) in Platte, SD. A Sinclair Station- man even came out, filled my tank (wouldn't stop until he got 8 bucks out of it) and, WASHED MY WINDSHIELD!

Anyway, 3.06/g, down about .20/g.

 

Gas consumption is faster than first predicted > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19187047/

 

Tomdavie:

Quote:

But to say someone REFUSES to change their driving habits = a hard core drug addict junkie is just insane. Buying as much gasoline as they want .... How is this ILLEGAL?

I'm sorry my post is difficult to read, sometimes my communication skills are lacking.

Please let me first say that I believe in free market- that people can and should be able to buy what ever they please- what ever it is.
But the vast majority of people who are complaining and honestly hurting because of high gasoline prices aren't acting logically. They likely regulate their other consumable usage such as:
*Water use (Dripping faucets, restrictors etc)
*Electricity use
*Food consumption (Should I mainly buy hamburger or always get that expensive steak)
*Heating/cooling (Setting the therm higher in summer,lower in winter)

etc etc

But if someone suggests that driving their vehicle more efficiently can save big $$, the idea is almost always discarded or met with hostility.

I've thought a long time and wondered why people make all those consumable adjustments to meet their annual budgets except when it comes to gasoline.
My only conclusion is an addiction to:
*Speed
*Ego (I can overtake or intimidate this person and get away with it)
*Thrill for what ever reason
*Ignorance
And all of the above have the effect of lifting their spirits to either "normal" or elevated levels. It helps them get what they need to feel good about themselves in a twisted way: They are faster than others, they pushed those other drivers and are smarter than the police.

The drug/alcohol abuser gets the same basic end result: They either reach what they consider a "normal" or elevated level. It helps them get what they need to feel good about themselves in a twisted way: A state of superiority, wisdom, physical strength and euphoria.

Surely I'd rather drive a Hummer with bad spark plugs on flat tires than be an illicit drug user, but addiction is what it is. But take the drugs away from the abuser- you'll get about the same reaction from an excessive fuel consumer which is merely suggested they can save allot of money.

You misquoted me in your response:
*I never said (or hinted) that fuel consumption is illegal
*I didn't say high fuel consumption is worse than crack heads

What I did say is both are are related as an addiction and difficult to deal with. We can have different opinions but please don't misquote.
If a person is happily feeding a 13MPG vehcile because they can afford it then great, and more power to them. But I don't want to hear their complaints about a 16MPG fuel bill while maintaining very poor habits.

-Steve

 

I agree Hot_Georgia_2004. I would only add that currently lower energy prices do help, but only in the short run if the lower price is unsustainable and/or does not include hidden costs.

 

That's all great but the original posters and others were predicting $4 a gallon by this summer.

Horizon? Next month, next year? Put your guess in. I guessing we won't see 4 buck in the next year. I would even go out on a limb and say we won't see it in 2 years. (assuming no 9/11 type event). And I mean national average.

 

Yep. Quite agree on the whereabouts of that mythic horizon. Earlier this year I was inclined to think we'd see that 4buck/g gas around Labor Day. Now it's down near 3.00/g here in the Heartland. With Congress working to get anti-gouging legislation in place, that may cause the oil co's to work harder at keeping plants on line.

However, the fact of the matter is that unlike years ago when we and Western Europe (even with hight taxes) were the only major consumer of oil, China and India are out there beating the bushes.

So when? Que savez but sooner rather than later.