When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

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12-13-2005, 07:40 PM

kenny

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When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

Who got a California HOV sticker recently?
What is the number on it?
I assume they are being issued sequentially.

My 06 HCH is arriving March or April.
Will I be too late for a sticker?

I would love to see a graph of number of stickers issued vs. time.

12-13-2005, 07:52 PM

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

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Originally Posted by kenny

Last report from someone here, late last week I think, was in the 38000's. So we're half way to 75000 after four months on the program. I'd say with a March or April delivery you're cutting it real close, although the pace of sticker issues may be a bit slower now because there was a big surge at the beginning.

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12-14-2005, 06:39 PM

spidermnmi

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

I received mine late last week, number 0391XX.

12-23-2005, 09:00 AM

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

I got mine yesterday and it is now 4002x. Exactly 30 days after I mailed in the app. So about 1000 per week.

Give it 35 weeks, but then there will be rush in January.

12-23-2005, 09:29 AM

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

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I got mine yesterday and it is now 4002x. Exactly 30 days after I mailed in the app. So about 1000 per week.

Give it 35 weeks, but then there will be rush in January.

The program has been going for about 16 weeks. That's an average of about 2500 per week. There was a big rush at the beginning. It sounds like the weekly average now is at least 1300. If we assume conservatively 6000 a month, there are six months left.

12-23-2005, 10:54 AM

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

The law also requires the dept. of transportation to reevaluate at 50,000.

Here's an article that refers to this provision:

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?...ntentID=252950

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The bill also requires the California Department of Transportation to ban hybrids from congested carpool lanes and to stop issuing permits above the number 50,000 if congestion problems were to arise.

Here's the actual relevant text of the bill (AB 2628):

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(2) The department shall notify the Department of Transportation
immediately after the date on which the department has issued 50,000
decals, labels, and other identifiers under this section for the
vehicles described in paragraphs (3) and (4) of subdivision (a).
(3) The Department of Transportation shall determine whether
significant high-occupancy vehicle lane breakdown has occurred
throughout the state, in accordance with the following timeline:
(A) For lanes that are nearing capacity, the Department of
Transportation shall make the determination not later than 90 days
after the date provided by the department under paragraph (2).
(B) For lanes that are not nearing capacity, the Department of
Transportation shall make the determination not later than 180 days
after the date provided by the department under paragraph (2).
(4) In making the determination that significant high-occupancy
vehicle lane breakdown has occurred, the Department of Transportation
shall consider the following factors in the HOV lane:
(A) Reduction in level of service.
(B) Sustained stop-and-go conditions.
(C) Slower than average speed than the adjacent mixed flow lanes.

(D) Consistent increase in travel time.
(5) After making the determinations pursuant to subparagraphs (A)
and (B) of paragraph (3), if the Department of Transportation
determines that significant high-occupancy vehicle lane breakdown has
occurred throughout the state, the Department of Transportation
shall immediately notify the department of that determination, and
the department, on the date of receiving that notification, shall
discontinue issuing the decals, labels, or other identifiers for the
vehicles described in paragraphs (3) and (4) of subdivision (a).

Link to the entire bill:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/...chaptered.html

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12-23-2005, 11:28 AM

MagneticPearl06

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

I sent the application along with the $8 fee on Dec. 19th...Do you think with the holiday season it will push back the date of receiving the sticker?

12-23-2005, 11:52 AM

dshelman

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

I called the number posted in another thread and was told that California DMV is running about a 60 day backlog right now. I sent in my clean air app/check in late october after I'd obtained the VIN from the dealer, but before I contracted the car. The check was cashed within 2 weeks, but nothing in the mail. When I called today, she said she saw the transaction on the computer and that it had just posted 2 days prior. There was some confusion as to whether that was the registration or the sticker, but she said to call back if I'd not received anything by the end of the 1st full week of '06.

Don

12-23-2005, 10:28 PM

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Re: When will the 75,000 stickers run out?

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Originally Posted by NASAgineer

The law also requires the dept. of transportation to reevaluate at 50,000.

The DOT has up to 90 days to analyze the situation before halting the issuance of stickers. If they take 90 days it will be May before they make their decision, and they'll probably have issued 65000 stickers by then.

I believe there's another provision, which worries me more. They have the authority to exclude hybrids from particular freeways or freeway sections if they cause congestion to those sections. The I-80 corridor, where the HOV lane requires 3 people in a regular vehicle because it is so congested, is a prime candidate for hybrid exclusion. My wife uses I-80 in her daily commute and would be impacted greatly if hybrid access is cancelled. If it happens, we'll replace the HCH with a Civic GX ASAP. The GX is eligible to use the carpool lane regardless.