What is the 62 mile bug?
#11
Re: What is the 62 mile bug?
Originally Posted by Tim
Don't know how much this has to do with it, but computers think/speak in binary - 1's and 0's. You can count from 0 to 63 using 6 bits, that is 000000 thru 111111. To get 64, you need a seventh bit (1000000). Often times when computers do goofy things related to math, it happens on the factors of 2 (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64...). If the computer - due to a programming error - is only reading the first 6 bits of the mileage data, it would go 0 - 63 then recycle. It could be some other combination as I'm not sure how they'd handle the decimal.
I do NOT want a car programmed in COBOL!
#13
Re: What is the 62 mile bug?
Well, I believe I finally have conclusive evidence that it is indeed a 100 km bug....
Today on the way home from work I was at about 175 miles on trip A (62 x 3 = 186).
So, I switched my display to read in metric (km and l/100km - rather strange watching the instantaneous meter read the other way!). Switching to metric made it easy to see what would happen at exactly 300.0 km.
I watched the l/100km gauge for 11 miles. It didn't move much, which is to be expected. The entire way home it stayed right at 4.9 l/100km, only occasionally dipping to 4.8.
I knew that if it was a 100 km bug, and if I accelerated hard at 300.0 km, I would minimize the time it took for the gauge to register after reset and hopefully catch it in the act.
At 298.5 km I pulled into a medium sized parking lot. I cruised the lot until the gauge read 300.0 km, and I stopped. Still read 4.9 l/km, as it had pretty much the entire 11 miles previous.
I then accelerated hard for .3 km, letting up only long enough to make the turns.
The gauge hesitated at 4.9 l/100km for roughly .1 km (I assume while the reset was taking place and gas/km were accumulating to something that would register), then climbed from 4.9 to 5.2 to 5.5 l/100km while I traveled from 300.1 to 300.3 km.
I think this nails it. It is a 100km bug, or a 62.13712 mile bug if you prefer.
Anyone see any flaws in the test?
Today on the way home from work I was at about 175 miles on trip A (62 x 3 = 186).
So, I switched my display to read in metric (km and l/100km - rather strange watching the instantaneous meter read the other way!). Switching to metric made it easy to see what would happen at exactly 300.0 km.
I watched the l/100km gauge for 11 miles. It didn't move much, which is to be expected. The entire way home it stayed right at 4.9 l/100km, only occasionally dipping to 4.8.
I knew that if it was a 100 km bug, and if I accelerated hard at 300.0 km, I would minimize the time it took for the gauge to register after reset and hopefully catch it in the act.
At 298.5 km I pulled into a medium sized parking lot. I cruised the lot until the gauge read 300.0 km, and I stopped. Still read 4.9 l/km, as it had pretty much the entire 11 miles previous.
I then accelerated hard for .3 km, letting up only long enough to make the turns.
The gauge hesitated at 4.9 l/100km for roughly .1 km (I assume while the reset was taking place and gas/km were accumulating to something that would register), then climbed from 4.9 to 5.2 to 5.5 l/100km while I traveled from 300.1 to 300.3 km.
I think this nails it. It is a 100km bug, or a 62.13712 mile bug if you prefer.
Anyone see any flaws in the test?
#14
Re: What is the 62 mile bug?
I called my nearest Honda dealership's service department today and scheduled an appointment for Friday. I told them I had a problem with the gauge cluster as described in Product Update 06-013 (thanks to whoever posted that info here). The service consultant said, yes, it says you need a software update. No problem. We'll take care of it for you.
I'll report back on Friday, or as soon as I get a chance to verify that it's fixed.
I'll report back on Friday, or as soon as I get a chance to verify that it's fixed.
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