Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
#11
Re: More results from HS-FAS (EV-mode glide) in 06 HCH
Originally Posted by bluecivichybrid
Starting from the 92 & 280 interchange running south down to Alpine Road exit.
#13
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Ticketed? I believe 45mpg is the minimum speed limit. They can't ticket you as long as you stay above that. I'm not even sure if they can ticket you for obstructing traffic. Everyone always has an excuse to go faster.
#15
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Actually the 2006 HCH usually engages regenerative braking when you release the gas pedal, or even if you press on it very lightly depending on the battery's charge level. So often you have to press the gas pedal just enough to cancel the braking, though this often runs the engine so you no longer are engine-idle. But this can be prevented by attempting to minimize assist at all times, which isn't hard, but I much prefer using it.
It's too bad the cylinder deactivation isn't in the regular civic; it's a non-hybrid technology that really could have helped its mileage alot.
It's too bad the cylinder deactivation isn't in the regular civic; it's a non-hybrid technology that really could have helped its mileage alot.
#16
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
I tried again today to replicate the kind of mileage I got the first time I tried HS-FAS in the 06 HCH, but wasn't able to. Still got great mileage however.
Conditions: 40 degrees F, wet roads, 50-55 mph, 32 psi tires.
*all pictures taken while the car was in ev-mode. notice 4 bars of assist with rpms pegged at 1500 rpm @ 50 mph.
Beginning:
Middle:
End:
The battery State of Charge remained surprisingly high. I chose a minimum speed of 50 mph instead of 45 mph for practicality's sake and to not have others crash into me from behind going 65 mph.
As you can see, even with 40 degree temps, a slick roadway, 32 psi tires, and 5 mph higher speeds, I still got around 90 mpg.
Imagine what it would be like in 65 degree temps, dry roadway, with tires at 42 psi. I am thoroughly impressed by the HCH-II and its ev-mode capabilities.
Conditions: 40 degrees F, wet roads, 50-55 mph, 32 psi tires.
*all pictures taken while the car was in ev-mode. notice 4 bars of assist with rpms pegged at 1500 rpm @ 50 mph.
Beginning:
Middle:
End:
The battery State of Charge remained surprisingly high. I chose a minimum speed of 50 mph instead of 45 mph for practicality's sake and to not have others crash into me from behind going 65 mph.
As you can see, even with 40 degree temps, a slick roadway, 32 psi tires, and 5 mph higher speeds, I still got around 90 mpg.
Imagine what it would be like in 65 degree temps, dry roadway, with tires at 42 psi. I am thoroughly impressed by the HCH-II and its ev-mode capabilities.
#17
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Hi Bluecivichybrid:
___You are definitely getting the hang of it. Set that HCH-II up and pray for warmer temps. I can see post 100 mpg segments daily if you keep this up. And today’s runs were at much more tolerable speeds! Excellent!!!
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___You are definitely getting the hang of it. Set that HCH-II up and pray for warmer temps. I can see post 100 mpg segments daily if you keep this up. And today’s runs were at much more tolerable speeds! Excellent!!!
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#18
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Dude, I admire what you're doing and thanks for posting it for all to see.
I don't understand why the other owners posting here are not doing something similar.
NASAgineer seemed to be on track but I havn't seen anything concrete lately.
I test drove a HCH II last week and when I got in it the MPG average showed 35 MPG. About 4 or 5 other folks had driven it that day on a 8-10 mile routine test drive circuit for that dealership. I thought to myself, Jeez, that's not too good. I reset it before we began and by the time I got back from my test drive the average was 51 MPG. Now that's more like it! I figured out FAS EV pretty quick and could sustain it quite some time on level and downward sloped roads fairly easily, the first time I ever touched the car. I have driven a Prius in the past and totally understand the concept. I can't wait until the middle of next month when I get my HCH II and start posting some results. Just hope I can compete with you.
Good Job!
I don't understand why the other owners posting here are not doing something similar.
NASAgineer seemed to be on track but I havn't seen anything concrete lately.
I test drove a HCH II last week and when I got in it the MPG average showed 35 MPG. About 4 or 5 other folks had driven it that day on a 8-10 mile routine test drive circuit for that dealership. I thought to myself, Jeez, that's not too good. I reset it before we began and by the time I got back from my test drive the average was 51 MPG. Now that's more like it! I figured out FAS EV pretty quick and could sustain it quite some time on level and downward sloped roads fairly easily, the first time I ever touched the car. I have driven a Prius in the past and totally understand the concept. I can't wait until the middle of next month when I get my HCH II and start posting some results. Just hope I can compete with you.
Good Job!
#19
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Originally Posted by bluecivichybrid
I am thoroughly impressed by the HCH-II and its ev-mode capabilities.
bluecivichybrid, my record is still only 4 bars of assist in ev mode, what's your secret to the magical 5th bar? Is it easier when going downhill, or does that matter? I'm about ready for something like the Manual IMA mod. I wonder if it would work for the HCH-II? Then we really could do EV from a standstill!
#20
Re: Results from High Speed FAS in the 06 HCH
Originally Posted by NASAgineer
I use the ev mode all the time, especially on surface streets. I tend to pulse away from a stop light/sign to get up to speed, then use the ev mode to extend my glide all the way to the next light.
Originally Posted by NASAgineer
bluecivichybrid, my record is still only 4 bars of assist in ev mode, what's your secret to the magical 5th bar? Is it easier when going downhill, or does that matter? I'm about ready for something like the Manual IMA mod. I wonder if it would work for the HCH-II? Then we really could do EV from a standstill!
Try it while you're in ev-mode on a slight downslope. Enter ev-mode by backing off on the accelerator until the rpms jump down, and you feel a slight "jerk" because of the engine sealing the cylinders.
Push just a tiny bit more on the accelerator - you should see 1 bar of assist. Push again, the same increment, and you should see 2 bars. Keep increasing with these tiny increments until you see 4 bars.
Then, push a tiny, tiny bit more, and you should see 5 bars. if you were to move your foot any more forward (even a twitch) after you have 5 bars, the ICE would turn right back on. Since this is so precarious, I usually just settle for 4, as you see in the pictures.
The first time I saw 5 bars, it was only for a split second before my foot twitched a tiny bit forward and the ICE came right back on. Sometimes I'm lucky to hold it for 10 seconds or so, but it's tough.
Last edited by bluecivichybrid; 12-07-2005 at 11:02 PM.