Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
#21
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Dangerkitty,
I have to relate a short story. I sold Acuras in 1990 for a brief time. I started on the used lot. There was they guy interested in a 1989 Corolla GT. Kept coming in, but price was always too high (was like $9,999). Must have visited twice - never made a deal. A week later I'm talking with my sales manager and we're reviewing this guy. I'm nagging him to make this guy a deal (so I can make a sale). He says for me to call him up an tell him $9,299 and that's our best and lowest offer. So I do just that. After I finish with this "best" offer speech, he rips off a string of explatives and explains to me the car is on sale, in the news paper, for $8,999. He didn't buy the car. I will always remember that at car dealerships, the head and the butt may not always know what the other is doing.
Who knows why she quoted you $2200 over. Maybe they had a sales meeting that morning and decided they were going to start adding "market adjustments". Maybe the sales manager gave her bad info. Maybe they were hoping you were the 1 person in 10 that wouldn't know the difference and pay it (unfortunately, there are enough people buying cars with more credit than common sense who get taken and keep the dealers hoping you are such a person). Maybe they were trying to rip you off, maybe they just made a mistake. I more or less expect it. In fact if they don't try something sneaky, I get suspicious because I'm wondering if they're pulling something I haven't caught onto yet.
Clearly you don't need advice, but I wouldn't be too upset. Every dealer around here charges $1500-$3000 more for a Honda straight off the bat. Once you have it set in your mind what you should pay, everything a dealer says is just, "blah, blah, blah". They'll never have your best interest in mind, and if there was an extra dime in your pocket they'd try to take it.
Best of luck in your search.
I have to relate a short story. I sold Acuras in 1990 for a brief time. I started on the used lot. There was they guy interested in a 1989 Corolla GT. Kept coming in, but price was always too high (was like $9,999). Must have visited twice - never made a deal. A week later I'm talking with my sales manager and we're reviewing this guy. I'm nagging him to make this guy a deal (so I can make a sale). He says for me to call him up an tell him $9,299 and that's our best and lowest offer. So I do just that. After I finish with this "best" offer speech, he rips off a string of explatives and explains to me the car is on sale, in the news paper, for $8,999. He didn't buy the car. I will always remember that at car dealerships, the head and the butt may not always know what the other is doing.
Who knows why she quoted you $2200 over. Maybe they had a sales meeting that morning and decided they were going to start adding "market adjustments". Maybe the sales manager gave her bad info. Maybe they were hoping you were the 1 person in 10 that wouldn't know the difference and pay it (unfortunately, there are enough people buying cars with more credit than common sense who get taken and keep the dealers hoping you are such a person). Maybe they were trying to rip you off, maybe they just made a mistake. I more or less expect it. In fact if they don't try something sneaky, I get suspicious because I'm wondering if they're pulling something I haven't caught onto yet.
Clearly you don't need advice, but I wouldn't be too upset. Every dealer around here charges $1500-$3000 more for a Honda straight off the bat. Once you have it set in your mind what you should pay, everything a dealer says is just, "blah, blah, blah". They'll never have your best interest in mind, and if there was an extra dime in your pocket they'd try to take it.
Best of luck in your search.
Last edited by Tim; 01-07-2006 at 08:26 PM.
#23
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
This is bizarre logic to me because how many things hold half their value over 4 years? Especially things that degrade in quality over time? My shoes have zero resale value. My clothes have zero resale value, and they don't degrade at all. My computer is expensive and doesn't degrade but I'd have difficulty selling it.
The reason cars can be sold easily for a nice portion of the original price is because they're so expensive to buy new that there is a large market for used ones. That's really nice. So instead of paying $20000 each time you want a new car, you can just pay $5000 for example.
The reason cars can be sold easily for a nice portion of the original price is because they're so expensive to buy new that there is a large market for used ones. That's really nice. So instead of paying $20000 each time you want a new car, you can just pay $5000 for example.
I have a buddy that is a Master Mechanic. He has a mid 1980's Honda Prelude that has over 400,000 miles on it. He claims he is just breaking it in.
Comparing used shoes and clothing to pre-owned cars is making an apples and oranges comparison. Many if not most Certified Financial Planners recommend buying cars that are a few years old. You could buy a lease return that is just a few years old and save big over what the new cost of the automobile was. Since buying an automobile is the second most expensive purchase people make behind their house, why not shave off a few years of depreciation?
#24
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Originally Posted by Delta Flyer
CGameProgrammer, you just proved that when one is enraged, it's not their IQ that increases - it's their blood pressure that increases, giving a false feeling of brilliance...
#25
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Originally Posted by Tim
Dangerkitty,
I have to relate a short story. I sold Acuras in 1990 for a brief time. I started on the used lot. There was they guy interested in a 1989 Corolla GT. Kept coming in, but price was always too high (was like $9,999). Must have visited twice - never made a deal. A week later I'm talking with my sales manager and we're reviewing this guy. I'm nagging him to make this guy a deal (so I can make a sale). He says for me to call him up an tell him $9,299 and that's our best and lowest offer. So I do just that. After I finish with this "best" offer speech, he rips off a string of explatives and explains to me the car is on sale, in the news paper, for $8,999. He didn't buy the car. I will always remember that at car dealerships, the head and the butt may not always know what the other is doing.
Who knows why she quoted you $2200 over. Maybe they had a sales meeting that morning and decided they were going to start adding "market adjustments". Maybe the sales manager gave her bad info. Maybe they were hoping you were the 1 person in 10 that wouldn't know the difference and pay it (unfortunately, there are enough people buying cars with more credit than common sense who get taken and keep the dealers hoping you are such a person). Maybe they were trying to rip you off, maybe they just made a mistake. I more or less expect it. In fact if they don't try something sneaky, I get suspicious because I'm wondering if they're pulling something I haven't caught onto yet.
Clearly you don't need advice, but I wouldn't be too upset. Every dealer around here charges $1500-$3000 more for a Honda straight off the bat. Once you have it set in your mind what you should pay, everything a dealer says is just, "blah, blah, blah". They'll never have your best interest in mind, and if there was an extra dime in your pocket they'd try to take it.
Best of luck in your search.
I have to relate a short story. I sold Acuras in 1990 for a brief time. I started on the used lot. There was they guy interested in a 1989 Corolla GT. Kept coming in, but price was always too high (was like $9,999). Must have visited twice - never made a deal. A week later I'm talking with my sales manager and we're reviewing this guy. I'm nagging him to make this guy a deal (so I can make a sale). He says for me to call him up an tell him $9,299 and that's our best and lowest offer. So I do just that. After I finish with this "best" offer speech, he rips off a string of explatives and explains to me the car is on sale, in the news paper, for $8,999. He didn't buy the car. I will always remember that at car dealerships, the head and the butt may not always know what the other is doing.
Who knows why she quoted you $2200 over. Maybe they had a sales meeting that morning and decided they were going to start adding "market adjustments". Maybe the sales manager gave her bad info. Maybe they were hoping you were the 1 person in 10 that wouldn't know the difference and pay it (unfortunately, there are enough people buying cars with more credit than common sense who get taken and keep the dealers hoping you are such a person). Maybe they were trying to rip you off, maybe they just made a mistake. I more or less expect it. In fact if they don't try something sneaky, I get suspicious because I'm wondering if they're pulling something I haven't caught onto yet.
Clearly you don't need advice, but I wouldn't be too upset. Every dealer around here charges $1500-$3000 more for a Honda straight off the bat. Once you have it set in your mind what you should pay, everything a dealer says is just, "blah, blah, blah". They'll never have your best interest in mind, and if there was an extra dime in your pocket they'd try to take it.
Best of luck in your search.
Thank you for the info. I appreciate your comments and story.
DK
#26
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Originally Posted by dangerkitty
If that is directed at me I am at a loss as to how you came to that conclusion.
My mistake for making that post as the best thing I can do is leave this thread and hope things cool off....
#27
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
I'm sure dealing with semi-reputable dealers is frustrating. I'm having my own frustrations in the plasma TV market myself at the moment. It seems the dealers with the lowest price are not reputable and pull bait and switch tactics once they have your credit card number. I'd love to have a new 50" TH-50PHD8UK shipped for under $3k but the too good to be true prices really are too good to be true.
I think whenever any large sum of money is involved there is motivation for dealer scandal/rip off and the best policy is caveat emptor.
Please don't take your frustrations out on one another.
I think whenever any large sum of money is involved there is motivation for dealer scandal/rip off and the best policy is caveat emptor.
Please don't take your frustrations out on one another.
#28
Re: Honda Dealer trying to Rip me Off
Originally Posted by dangerkitty
Tim,
Thank you for the info. I appreciate your comments and story.
DK
Thank you for the info. I appreciate your comments and story.
DK
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