New abnormal sound from lower dash-A/C system
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Re: New abnormal sound from lower dash-A/C system
The saga continues...
Commuting to work this morning, sunny, 65degrees out, light suburban street traffic. All was good with the world, birds were chirping, even.
Suddenly, dashboard lights up, and it ain't the pleasant blinking green auto idle stop - it's the red and orange ABS, VSA Active, VSA, and BRAKE lights. I gingerly tap the brakes - still working. Hit the VSA off manual override - no change in the lights. Proceed very cautiously to the next light - no auto idle stop. Ugh. Cell speed dial the Honda dealer; appointment at lunchtime. Park the car. Ignition off. Start up at lunchtime - no lights. Hrmph. Makes debugging diagnosis tough for the dealer.
Just got the call back from the dealer service, and guess what was found?
Nothing. No error codes logged in the DLC. Come pick the car up. It's fine. Really. May not ever come back. Oh yeah, and we did a software update, maybe that'll fix it.
Commuting to work this morning, sunny, 65degrees out, light suburban street traffic. All was good with the world, birds were chirping, even.
Suddenly, dashboard lights up, and it ain't the pleasant blinking green auto idle stop - it's the red and orange ABS, VSA Active, VSA, and BRAKE lights. I gingerly tap the brakes - still working. Hit the VSA off manual override - no change in the lights. Proceed very cautiously to the next light - no auto idle stop. Ugh. Cell speed dial the Honda dealer; appointment at lunchtime. Park the car. Ignition off. Start up at lunchtime - no lights. Hrmph. Makes debugging diagnosis tough for the dealer.
Just got the call back from the dealer service, and guess what was found?
Nothing. No error codes logged in the DLC. Come pick the car up. It's fine. Really. May not ever come back. Oh yeah, and we did a software update, maybe that'll fix it.
Update on the diagnosis here.
Took the 2006 HAH (purchased new in Feb2007) into the Honda Service today. Clicking was validated during the test drive, with me in the passenger seat. Clicking was deemed to be normal for a car with 8400 miles on it.
Apparently the MCM, where the noise emanates from, (located in the left dash kick panel) contains many relays, which "always click". Didn't start for this car until about 2k miles.
BTW, long tubing works well as a proxy for a stethoscope.
Took the 2006 HAH (purchased new in Feb2007) into the Honda Service today. Clicking was validated during the test drive, with me in the passenger seat. Clicking was deemed to be normal for a car with 8400 miles on it.
Apparently the MCM, where the noise emanates from, (located in the left dash kick panel) contains many relays, which "always click". Didn't start for this car until about 2k miles.
BTW, long tubing works well as a proxy for a stethoscope.
#13
Re: New abnormal sound from lower dash-A/C system
I had exact same thing happen on my HAH. Turning the engine off and back on caused the lights to go away just like yours. When dealer pulled codes, they found a code for VSA solenoid malfunction. They tested the solenoid and it passed their test. So they asked me to keep an eye on those lights and if they ever light up again, drive straight to the dealer, not turn engine off and they will look at it. This was some 5 months back.
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Re: New abnormal sound from lower dash-A/C system
Good to know other HAHs have the same problem, with the car and Honda service. Somewhat surprising that Honda is being this cavalier with not fixing life-critical systems such as brakes and vehicle stability control.
I had exact same thing happen on my HAH. Turning the engine off and back on caused the lights to go away just like yours. When dealer pulled codes, they found a code for VSA solenoid malfunction. They tested the solenoid and it passed their test. So they asked me to keep an eye on those lights and if they ever light up again, drive straight to the dealer, not turn engine off and they will look at it. This was some 5 months back.
#15
Re: New abnormal sound from lower dash-A/C system
Sorta related, but in a different context, I see similar type problems at my job. Someone will report a vague problem, we'll send techs to try to figure out what was wrong, they'll come back in saying "could not duplicate", then the next day the same operator will complain of the same problem and be pissed it wasn't fixed. When I suggest they stick around when the problem occurs and wait for the tech to show up so that they can show the tech what they did and the error codes that pop up they get upset about having to "waste their time waiting on a tech." I try to remind them that the time they're spending to show the tech the problem now will save them a lot of wasted time later when the equipment is still down and we're trying to diagnose a phantom malfunction. They usually grumble under their breath, but they stick it out and wait for the tech.
If anyone else has similar probles with the indicator lights on the dash, follow what gonehiking said and next time those lights are illuminated, get to a dealership right away and have them look at it before turning the car off. Hopefully, they'll be able to remedy the problem.
I'm just over 40K miles, and the only repairs my car ever required was the rotors were turned (and one relaced) somewhere around 25K and the driver side power door lock actuator was replaced at around 37K.
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