Engine Malfunction

Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cjacobus1
We have won our arbitration!!!!! Honda is directed to buy the car back. A very easy, albiet lengthy (several month) process. Next step is finalizing the price to be paid, which is basicly in the Lemon law statute so it should be easy. The process was temporarily shut down for Christmas but we're expecting a resolution in early January.

If anyone is having this issue and would like more information on the process call me at 817-602-2915.

Chuck
Chuck,

I'm glad to read here that things are working out for you.

I also have a 2007 Honda Accord Hybrid. It has 4,100 Approx. miles on it now. I still like it.

I do know or think I know what some of the owners are speaking of about the backfire condition. Mine I feel is doing the same thing as others have commented on.

The one thing I have come to realize about that taking place is when I try to take off very carefully from a standing start. If I just go ahead and take off like I normally would in any other non Hybrid car it does just fine. So I have stopped fooling around with it from starts under very slow acceleration and just go ahead and take off. When I drive the car like that it does nothing wrong at all. So I have decided to love the Hybrid for the Great FE on the Hwy. and just drive it normally in the City with No Adverse Effects at all.

I can see though that it would be very annoying if one drove the car in a slow manner in City traffic.

Good Luck with your next choice of vehicles.

Terry Honaker
 

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cjacobus1
We have won our arbitration!!!!! Honda is directed to buy the car back. A very easy, albiet lengthy (several month) process. Next step is finalizing the price to be paid, which is basicly in the Lemon law statute so it should be easy. The process was temporarily shut down for Christmas but we're expecting a resolution in early January.

If anyone is having this issue and would like more information on the process call me at 817-602-2915.

Chuck
Congrats Chuck! This is great news. My arbitration was approved by the state of Georgia, so I am just waiting on the panel to schedule the hearing. Should be in 4-6 weeks. Since the filing, my car has been in for even more problems. The entire sunroof and frame was replaced recently and just last week, the navigation and audio system was replaced. Sadly, I still love the car and can't think of many other vehicles I would prefer to own. But, I will not lay down and just accept these major issues at the price tag I paid for this vehicle and am glad to see others aren't either.

Happy new year!
 
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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Chuck,

I'm glad to read here that things are working out for you.

I also have a 2007 Honda Accord Hybrid. It has 4,100 Approx. miles on it now. I still like it.

I do know or think I know what some of the owners are speaking of about the backfire condition. Mine I feel is doing the same thing as others have commented on.

The one thing I have come to realize about that taking place is when I try to take off very carefully from a standing start. If I just go ahead and take off like I normally would in any other non Hybrid car it does just fine. So I have stopped fooling around with it from starts under very slow excelleration and just go ahead and take off. When I drive the car like that it does nothing wrong at all. So I have decided to love the Hybrid for the Great FE on the Hwy. and just drive it normally in the City with No Adverse Effects at all.

I can see though that it would be very annoying if one drove the car in a slow manner in City traffic.

Good Luck with your next choice of vehicles.

Terry Honaker
Sorry to hear that yours has also started to have this issue. For a while, I was believing that you had one of the very few non-backfiring HAH's out there. If you are still happy with it even with that problem, that's what counts.

Happy New Year!
 
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tsienville
Sorry to hear that yours has also started to have this issue. For a while, I was believing that you had one of the very few non-backfiring HAH's out there. If you are still happy with it even with that problem, that's what counts.

Happy New Year!
And a [Very-Happy-New-Year] to YOU !!!!!

I'm not even Honestly Positive that my HAH is doing as others have reported but it does make some small sound every once in awhile while taking off at a "Snails-Pace" from Stops. This may or may not be what is happening with other HAH owners.

I have just noticed though that if I stop screwing around from stops and just go ahead and take off it drives PERFECT. So I have no complaints on my end with it.

When I say I now just go ahead and take off from STOPS I am not speaking of Flooring the Car. I'm simply saying I don't hold up the vehicles behind me and just go ahead and drive it from Stops in a Normal Manner.

I will have to say this though that this is one Fast Sedan if you do put your foot in it from a standing start. It will get the job done. It is not a race car but it is not anything like a SLED either.

I just went on a 586 Mile round trip to Ky. to visit Family and it did the trip on 1-Tank of Gas. I set the cruise on 70 miles per hour both going and coming. Also this includes driving in town shopping Etc. The MPG was 34.6 as I recall before resetting the Trip Meter. The car held 17.916 Gallons on refill. Did I mention it was raining for part of the trip. So I cannot Fault this Hybrid. The nav. took me right to their door and the car is Fast plus the FE is Great. So I can in my case work around the (MAYBE) little sound it sometimes makes from a Stop. It is a very small thing for me to work around.

But as I said I may not even have the Problem that others are referring to with their Hybrids. If I were them and as they say, they are Very-Unsatisfied with their hybrids I would do as they are doing. I wish them the very best results from their EFFORTS. They are correct in that this is not an Inexpensive Hybrid. It seems to me that we are talking about a sticker price of somewhere like $33,000.00 Dollars with the Nav. and Dealer Installed Accessories so they have every right to expect their vehicle to work accordingly.

Terry

I would go this route again.
 

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Trav:
We won our arbitration using the Texas Lemon Law. The only procedure we had was to close out the BBB program case and start a Lemon Law case. This required notification of Honda by a simple letter that we were perusing remedy under the Texas Lemon Law. All other actions remained the same. BBB transferred all the claim data from the "program" case to the "Lemon Law" case (transparent to me). Timeframe was the same and the arbitrator was able to award the same compensation as the courts (all costs including taxes, interest, etc.). We did not have to use a lawyer. They haven't taken possession of the car yet, so things could still be interesting. We are cautiously optimistic, however.

Interestingly enough during the process Honda admitted (in a backhanded way) that they had caused the issue. The company recognized the issue but refused to address it, saying that it is a normal operating characteristic of the vehicle. Honda acknowledges the issue is in ’06 and ’07 (but not ’05) vehicles. I don't know of any hardware changes, so this means they must have accidently introduced this "actuation conflict" in a software drop. I am told that Honda and the IMA contractor are fighting over whose responsibility this is to fix it. That would be typical of large corporations, but I don't know if it's true.

Good luck on yours.

Chuck
 
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Trav:
We won our arbitration using the Texas Lemon Law. The only procedure we had was to close out the BBB program case and start a Lemon Law case. This required notification of Honda by a simple letter that we were perusing remedy under the Texas Lemon Law. All other actions remained the same. BBB transferred all the claim data from the "program" case to the "Lemon Law" case (transparent to me). Timeframe was the same and the arbitrator was able to award the same compensation as the courts (all costs including taxes, interest, etc.). We did not have to use a lawyer. They haven't taken possession of the car yet, so things could still be interesting. We are cautiously optimistic, however.

Good luck on yours.

Chuck
 
Old Dec 31, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cjacobus1
Honda acknowledges the issue is in ’06 and ’07 (but not ’05) vehicles. I don't know of any hardware changes, so this means they must have accidently introduced this "actuation conflict" in a software drop.
With 42K miles, my '05 has never had the issue described. Hopefully, it stays that way.
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Unfortunately, if the car doesn't generate a code, the dealer will be clueless. My partner's non-hybrid Accord did something goofy three weeks ago that the dealer couldn't figure out either. His Accord wouldn't start up. I tried jumping it from my HCH with no effect. I tried jumping it from the tow truck dude's vehucle with no effect. But after it got towed to the dealer, the technician was able to start it up rightaway just by turning the key!

No codes = no diagnosis. What a drag!
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AshenGrey
Unfortunately, if the car doesn't generate a code, the dealer will be clueless. My partner's non-hybrid Accord did something goofy three weeks ago that the dealer couldn't figure out either. His Accord wouldn't start up. I tried jumping it from my HCH with no effect. I tried jumping it from the tow truck dude's vehucle with no effect. But after it got towed to the dealer, the technician was able to start it up rightaway just by turning the key!

No codes = no diagnosis. What a drag!
Just took the time to look over and read (Some) of your maintenance log. Very-Complete & Interesting.

Nice-Job.

Terry

I also had purchased the 2003 HCH, 2006 HCH & now the 2007 HAH.
 

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