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Turning friction sound and 1300rpm rattle

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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Default Turning friction sound and 1300rpm rattle

Hey all, Have a few questions.

So when I turn in either direction, I have noticed there is this sound that comes from the top of the shocks at the join area where it turns at, which I assume it just needs to be lubricated with something special, though for whatever reason that sort of thump rubbing sound doesnt happen on wet roads. Any suggestions?

I dont know if anyone has experienced this and its probably just a lose piece of plastic I cant find rattling, but at 1300 rpm there is this distinct rattle in the front right of the engine. Has anyone experienced this before? 1300rpm is about the sweet spot for it, give or take 50 rpm.
 
Old Mar 3, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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No suggestions regarding the first issue; however, my HCH-II has an engine rattle as well. It sounds metallic, almost like a metal ring rattling on an axle, but I can't find anything loose. Sometimes the sound is quite pronounced. As you note, it tends to happen right around 1300rpm (just above idle), and it seems to come from the front-right of the engine. I am beginning to believe it is the CVT making the noise, as the location is suspect and its timbre definitely changes with the CVT ratio/load (holding same/similar engine RPM). Higher or lower RPM it goes away, and it's intermittent. Sometimes it'll do it for minutes straight going down the road at town speeds, and then it'll be days before I hear it again. 436,000 miles and counting... I'd say it's been doing it occasionally for the last 100,000 miles and is more of an annoyance than anything else.
 

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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Techie007
No suggestions regarding the first issue; however, my HCH-II has an engine rattle as well. It sounds metallic, almost like a metal ring rattling on an axle, but I can't find anything loose. Sometimes the sound is quite pronounced. As you note, it tends to happen right around 1300rpm (just above idle), and it seems to come from the front-right of the engine. I am beginning to believe it is the CVT making the noise, as the location is suspect and its timbre definitely changes with the CVT ratio/load (holding same/similar engine RPM). Higher or lower RPM it goes away, and it's intermittent. Sometimes it'll do it for minutes straight going down the road at town speeds, and then it'll be days before I hear it again. 436,000 miles and counting... I'd say it's been doing it occasionally for the last 100,000 miles and is more of an annoyance than anything else.
Recently bought a '07 HCH at 212k miles. Has had this sound since then. Currently at ~219k miles with the sound happening around 1200rpm and sometimes right around 1900rpm. Took it to Honda themselved for a CVT Fluid flush as it was slipping terribly from auto stop if you didnt let it inch itself forward and barely touch the pedal to move. CVT Flush fixed this issue. Had them look at the motor mounts and heat shield as I had Firestone do their $10 look at it when I had the sparkplugs replaced since previous owner hadn't for however long and mentioned it may be the heat shield causing the sound. So, Honda showed me a video of how the Heat shield for the Cat has a huge hole rusted out facing the passenger side and the front two bolts on the driver side being broken off with it hanging a bit, stating the sound was most likely this, that if I don't do replace it, it would just eventually fall off on the road at some point but wouldn't really be an issue for the car itself.

Sometime in the next month I'll have the expendable funds to replace the heat shield, but my main priority right now is replacing the IMA battery. I will report back if this is the issue sometime before the end of the year. It's either this or the upper left motor mount as it is recessed a little bit compared to how it should be, but nothing too terrible that it needs replaced just yet.
 
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