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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by msantos
Harold, a scangauge is absolutely mandatory for getting higher fuel economy on the HCH.

For instance, my scaugauge is typically displaying the following values:

LOD-engine load
IGN-Ignition retard and advance
cIA-intake air temperature
cWT-Engine coolant temperature

There are many other values Scangauge that can display, but the ones I listed are the ones that help me the most.

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MSantos
Absolutely mandatory?
I don't even know what it is.
Never heard of it.

My 64.4 MPG lifetime average is not good?
 
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kenny
Absolutely mandatory?
I don't even know what it is.
Never heard of it.

My 64.4 MPG lifetime average is not good?

Sorry. I guess I should have worded it differently - my fault.

However, while it is possible for some of us to tap into the efficient operating range of the HCH-II regularly, for others this remains a largely unattainable goal due to a varying and ever present number of variables we deal with.

You have a good lifetime average and that is awesome. In my case I can not even dream of getting close to that baseline.
Anyhow, with the help of a Scangauge I can certainly improve upon what I would otherwise get as a result of a city driving commute and whatever else mother nature throws at me.

It is in this context, that a ScanGauge is a solid requirement for "higher" fuel economy, and especially so if you are a intentional/practicing hypermiler (which I am not worthy of being).


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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Thank you all. Kenny has probably got two SG in his car msantos!!! he he
 
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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I just do the simple boring stuff, like go super slow.

To each his own (and maybe I could get better MPG if I approached it more like an engineer [actually I AM an engineer] ) but it never ceases to amaze me how complicated people are willing to make all this.

I'm not saying each thing is not valid, or doesn't work.
It's just that I get such great MPG knowing and using so few of the hypermiling tools and techniques that I read about.

I can see why some visitors here just give up and think that getting good MPG is too complicated.
 

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Your point is well taken, Thank you H
 
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:08 AM
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MSantos -

Thanks for the detailed description of how you use your SG - it does seem to be helping your FE.


Kenny -

I agree that there are many tips and equipment offered at this and cleanmpg to try to improve FE. For me, and many other visitors to the site, a daily commute that is flat, level, not many stops, consistently warm weather and allows for slow starts/~50mph cruising is not available. That probably makes it more difficult to reach 50, 60 or higher FE routinly, so I am not suprised that we ask and share tips on how to get great FE.

Cold and snow will come to Ohio shortly and I was interested in seeing if a $100+ SG2 or block heater are worth installing and using...

Visitors to the site who bought/do buy an HCH2 probably got 80% of the benefits in just buying an efficient vehicle.

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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Hi,

The bloc heater is a real must and discussed in other thread here. SG, like Kenny, i'am less sure. I did from 50 to 70 mpg this summer and frankly, I think the wheather is one of the most important variable. This morning I was wondering about my mpg avarage before the HCH and it was probably not bad at all because, before knowing the word hypermiling, I was doing already : slow speed, slow acceleration and driving without breaks. The common sens FE techniques.

This summer I also played with my GPS having a precision altimeter. I came to the conclusion that an altimeter is a must and many time you climb while your perception is telling you that you climb-down. I can optimise the DWL knowing that, I said to myself. We can multiply the gadgets but the FE remains in the three technics I mentionned above. In addition, I don't want to become like these drivers disturbed by all king of gadget, the main one being the cellular.

All this said, there are interesting comments and arguments for the SG in this thread. I will re-read it slowly.


PierreM
 
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spartybrutus
Visitors to the site who bought/do buy an HCH2 probably got 80% of the benefits in just buying an efficient vehicle.
Hmm, my experience tells me the opposit. I usually say 2/3 come from the techniques and 1/3 from the hybrid property of the car.

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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I think your probably close on your numbers, because the best I can manage out of my HCH is 56mpg. That is on highway driving at close to the speed limits. So I agree a big part of FE is all technique.I could slow down and get better FE, but I have trouble staying under the posted speeds! H
 
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