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New FE #s are in for '08 HCHII

Old Feb 24, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kenny
The cars did not change.
The measurement changed.

It is now measured in a way that duplicates the way most people drive.

Now instead of getting 26% better than EPA, I get 53% better than EPA
Kenny, Yeah but, I'm pretty sure you've made an alteration to your HCH for a tertiary assist scheme to get the MPG you get...

File-photo of Kenny on the 405:

 
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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40/45 is not that bad. Even more so since every other car is also going to be rated worse.
 
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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if you average those two numbers together, that makes me a hypermiler!
 
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Living in Canada, I converted those number in L/100km.

To my surprise, It's almost an increase arround 1.0L/100km.

07 HCHII: +0.9L/100km
07 Civic MT: +0.98L/100km
07 Toyota Corrola MT: +1.06L/100km
07 Mazda 3 MT: +1.12L/100km
07 Nissan Sentra MT: +0.87L/100km
07 Pontiac G5 MT: +1.01L/100km

So my conclusion is: in term of increase in %, yes hybrid are hit more badly than non-hybrid car. But when it come the the fuel quantity require to do the same distance the increase is about the same.

Am I wrong?
 
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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That "file photo" of Kenny on the 405 is incorrect - with 2 people in a two-seater car it should qualify for a CA Carpool Sticker which is not properly displayed on the windshield (heck - there is no windshield either).
 
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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If this is true AND California does decide to issue additional carpool stickers I believe this will make the 08 ineligible. It is my understanding that the average of highway and city mileage had to be at least 45 mpg to qualify for the stickers.
 
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: New FE #s are in for '08 HCHII

Originally Posted by dburanich
If this is true AND California does decide to issue additional carpool stickers I believe this will make the 08 ineligible. It is my understanding that the average of highway and city mileage had to be at least 45 mpg to qualify for the stickers.

Good point.
But that 45 was based on the old EPA rating system.
Shouldn't they lower it to around 40 to keep it apples to apples?

BTW, where did you get that pic of me on the 405?
 
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