First oil change today
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Re: First oil change today
Originally Posted by Mr. Kite
3.4 quarts
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That's interesting. They have all kinds of discrepancies in the manual. When I had my first oil change, they dumped in 4 quarts and it was at the full mark. I had asked them to only put in 3.4, but they didn't listen. The second time, I made sure they didn't put in a full 4 quarts.
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So the jury is out on whether or not it's 4 or 3.4?
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No jury, Kristian, the manuals consistently say 3.4. A dealer putting in 4 is just selling you more oil.
I buy my Mobil 1 0w-20 at Autobarn (http://www.autobarn.com/) and just have it sent. I missed the great Walmart clearance earlier this year where they sold out all their stocks of the stuff. And no autoparts store in range (Autozone, Checker) had 0-20.
Cheers --
Doug
I buy my Mobil 1 0w-20 at Autobarn (http://www.autobarn.com/) and just have it sent. I missed the great Walmart clearance earlier this year where they sold out all their stocks of the stuff. And no autoparts store in range (Autozone, Checker) had 0-20.
Cheers --
Doug
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Change
Including Filter 3.4 US qt
Without Filter 3.2 US qt
Total 4.0 US qt
(I don't quite understand that math, but that is where I read the 4.0 qt)
OR, if you read the last page in my manual, it says 3.4 US qt.
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Change (*2)
Including Filter 3.4 US qt
Without Filter 3.2 US qt
Total 4.0 US qt
*2: Excluding the oil remaining in the engine
The 4.0 US qt includes the oil remaining in the engine when you change the oil (the total capacity). Just as the total capacity of the AT fluid is 5.4 US qt, but you can only change 3.0 US qt.
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Hmmm, didn't see that part. Thanks for the clarifier.
I'm stumped on something: oil collects in the pan when you turn the engine off. Where else in the engine would better than a pint of oil hang out when it's shut off? (Note that it can't be the filter -- the filter is explicitly included in the 3.4 figure, and given the 3.2 sans filter figure, apparently holds .2 qt.) The drain plug's at pretty much the bottom of the pan -- would there really be a pint left hanging out in there when it's finished draining? (I have a hand pump -- could find out the next time I change mine. . . .)
btw, on the trans, you can only get at two thirds of the fluid because that's all that's in the pan to begin with -- the rest is in the clutch area (on an auto trans, it's in the torque converter). I'm not aware of any analogous structure on an ICE that would contain much oil after shutdown.
--doug
I'm stumped on something: oil collects in the pan when you turn the engine off. Where else in the engine would better than a pint of oil hang out when it's shut off? (Note that it can't be the filter -- the filter is explicitly included in the 3.4 figure, and given the 3.2 sans filter figure, apparently holds .2 qt.) The drain plug's at pretty much the bottom of the pan -- would there really be a pint left hanging out in there when it's finished draining? (I have a hand pump -- could find out the next time I change mine. . . .)
btw, on the trans, you can only get at two thirds of the fluid because that's all that's in the pan to begin with -- the rest is in the clutch area (on an auto trans, it's in the torque converter). I'm not aware of any analogous structure on an ICE that would contain much oil after shutdown.
--doug
Last edited by DougD; 07-09-2007 at 10:37 PM.
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That reminds me of a Car Talk I listened to a few years ago where the caller would run his engine for 30 seconds or so with the oil plug out to make sure that he got ALL of the oil out of the engine. Click and Clack's reaction was pretty funny, but I wouldn't be able to do it justice. Needless to say, they did not think that was a good idea.
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I'd think that a pint could easily be held in the oil pump and oil galleries within the block, crankshaft, etc... and pooled in areas of the cylinder head.