800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
#1
800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
I just surpassed 800 miles on a tank in my 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. My wife and I have been working on this tank since our last fill-up on June 6. I still haven't filled up yet. I lost my last bar at about 785 miles.
To head off a few questions, yes I FAS and yes I topped off.
To head off a few questions, yes I FAS and yes I topped off.
#2
Re: 800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
That's amazing.
I am reminded of a billboard for Dodge I saw this morning.
The headline is, "LA to SF on a single tank"
The sad thing is they don't need to mention that tanks vary in size (I'm sure their demographic wouldn't understand anyway.)
Oh BTW Mapquest says the drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco is 382 miles.
Hahahaha
Talk about clueless!
I am reminded of a billboard for Dodge I saw this morning.
The headline is, "LA to SF on a single tank"
The sad thing is they don't need to mention that tanks vary in size (I'm sure their demographic wouldn't understand anyway.)
Oh BTW Mapquest says the drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco is 382 miles.
Hahahaha
Talk about clueless!
Last edited by kenny; 06-29-2007 at 09:35 PM.
#5
Re: 800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
Here's the definition used over at cleanmpg:
*Could be dangerous if not done right, possibly illegal*
Forced Autostop: A Honda hybrid will AS (Autostop) in various scenario’s although it is very limiting to a given condition. To high a speed, to cold, not enough SOC (state of Charge), not enough speed since last AS, Defrost or A/C on except for the AH and HCH-II in specific conditions, etc. will not allow AS … Forcing an AS in any vehicle (other then an HSD equipped hybrid), aka FAS, release to IG-II, and engage transmission with a rev match to continue on your way. Pro’s include a very noticeable increase in FE over any short distance trip and is required in a few areas of the US as well as much of Europe, ie. sitting at a stop sign for > 15 seconds or at a stop for > 5 minutes … Con’s include powerless coast, power brake assist is lost after a few uses, power steering is lost although at speed, you do not need it, is illegal in some locales, and possibly both gear reduction starter from excessive ICE starts and pre-mature wear from re-engagements of the transmission at speed.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/gloss...lossary&term=1
*Could be dangerous if not done right, possibly illegal*
Forced Autostop: A Honda hybrid will AS (Autostop) in various scenario’s although it is very limiting to a given condition. To high a speed, to cold, not enough SOC (state of Charge), not enough speed since last AS, Defrost or A/C on except for the AH and HCH-II in specific conditions, etc. will not allow AS … Forcing an AS in any vehicle (other then an HSD equipped hybrid), aka FAS, release to IG-II, and engage transmission with a rev match to continue on your way. Pro’s include a very noticeable increase in FE over any short distance trip and is required in a few areas of the US as well as much of Europe, ie. sitting at a stop sign for > 15 seconds or at a stop for > 5 minutes … Con’s include powerless coast, power brake assist is lost after a few uses, power steering is lost although at speed, you do not need it, is illegal in some locales, and possibly both gear reduction starter from excessive ICE starts and pre-mature wear from re-engagements of the transmission at speed.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/gloss...lossary&term=1
#6
Re: 800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
Hey, Ryan --
Forced Auto-Stop. (Turn the key off while driving. It's kinda extreme.)
It's actually a contradiction in terms, of course: if it was "auto," it wouldn't have to be "forced."
cheers --
doug
(welcome to greenhybrid!)
Forced Auto-Stop. (Turn the key off while driving. It's kinda extreme.)
It's actually a contradiction in terms, of course: if it was "auto," it wouldn't have to be "forced."
cheers --
doug
(welcome to greenhybrid!)
#8
Re: 800 mile tank and still going in an HCHII
I really wanted to know how much gas this thing holds. Since my wife is going to be out of town for the next few days, I did not want to risk running out of gas while responsible for two kids. Also, I did not want to tote around a spare gallon of gas in a gas can while my kids were in the car. So, I drove a few unnecessary miles yesterday and this morning. However, I did not run out of gas and decided to fill up at 902 miles.
Since the last picture, I drove 100.6 miles at an average fuel economy of 78.8 mpg. I added 13.727 gallons of gas to the tank which calculates to 65.7 mpg.
My number in the mileage database is slightly different. This is because I do not normally top off. Because of this, I use the first click as my baseline. For example, when filling up, I record the amount of gas at the first click. Any extra that I put in after this point gets carried over to the next tank. This adds the error of first click variations, but it removes the wild and inaccurate swings in calculated FE you would get in going from a topped-off tank to a nontopped-off tank and vice versa.
Anyway, it looks like a 1000 mile tank is certainly possible. I'm not sure of the tank's capacity. But I'm guessing it is at least 14 gallons when topped off. If I can average over 70 mpg, I should be able to do it. With this tank, my wife drove 100+ miles with fuel economy in the low 50s. To average in the 70s, I will have to keep this vehicle to myself for the duration of the tank. I guess we'll have to see how feasible that is.
Since the last picture, I drove 100.6 miles at an average fuel economy of 78.8 mpg. I added 13.727 gallons of gas to the tank which calculates to 65.7 mpg.
My number in the mileage database is slightly different. This is because I do not normally top off. Because of this, I use the first click as my baseline. For example, when filling up, I record the amount of gas at the first click. Any extra that I put in after this point gets carried over to the next tank. This adds the error of first click variations, but it removes the wild and inaccurate swings in calculated FE you would get in going from a topped-off tank to a nontopped-off tank and vice versa.
Anyway, it looks like a 1000 mile tank is certainly possible. I'm not sure of the tank's capacity. But I'm guessing it is at least 14 gallons when topped off. If I can average over 70 mpg, I should be able to do it. With this tank, my wife drove 100+ miles with fuel economy in the low 50s. To average in the 70s, I will have to keep this vehicle to myself for the duration of the tank. I guess we'll have to see how feasible that is.