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#71
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Hmm, since one is talking about killing the electric car, Honda killed not only the Insight but the Accord Hybrid. Is Honda forcing their customers to spend more on fuel now that 2 of their 3 Hybrids are currently off the market? Does this mean Honda is getting kickbacks from Big Oil?
I'm in favor of closing this thread that has become useless for "professionals".
I'm in favor of closing this thread that has become useless for "professionals".
#72
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If I get another complaint about smarminess, ad hominem attacks, people being told to get out of GH, or any other unnecessary hostility, this thread will be locked.
If you cannot put your point across civilly and rationally, I will bet that you either haven't tried or simply need to revisit your assumptions. I forget who originally said this, but I'll paraphrase... never offend with style when you can with substance.
If you cannot put your point across civilly and rationally, I will bet that you either haven't tried or simply need to revisit your assumptions. I forget who originally said this, but I'll paraphrase... never offend with style when you can with substance.
#73
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Sorry, I have got to jump in here.....Big Tuna, you are saying the dual mode is a better choice because it saves 7 more gallons per year than the Civic? WHAT ABOUT THE 285 IT WASTES???? come on, you can't be serious.
The Civic uses, by your estimate 286 gallons a year, the SUV TWICE that much @ 571....what are you smoking?
The Civic uses, by your estimate 286 gallons a year, the SUV TWICE that much @ 571....what are you smoking?
Were I to ever need a truck or SUV I'd welcome higher mileage options. If they ran on renewable fuel that would be even better.
#75
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I think sales numbers tell the real story...and they will continue to tell the real story.
People want real cars with real efficiency and real emissions reductions. so far, the volt ain't it. Other car companies are selling it. today.
Sure, some car companies produce low (dismally low!) MPG trucks and SUVs, and also produce a stellar group of hybrids.
Others produce mildly (VERY mildly!) better MPG trucks and SUVs and NO stellar hybrids.
Again, look at sales numbers. I think that says all that needs to be said. Green sales versus green ads. Which do you think will truly help the average person "drive green" today?
People want real cars with real efficiency and real emissions reductions. so far, the volt ain't it. Other car companies are selling it. today.
Sure, some car companies produce low (dismally low!) MPG trucks and SUVs, and also produce a stellar group of hybrids.
Others produce mildly (VERY mildly!) better MPG trucks and SUVs and NO stellar hybrids.
Again, look at sales numbers. I think that says all that needs to be said. Green sales versus green ads. Which do you think will truly help the average person "drive green" today?
#76
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I think sales numbers tell the real story...and they will continue to tell the real story.
People want real cars with real efficiency and real emissions reductions. so far, the volt ain't it. Other car companies are selling it. today.
Sure, some car companies produce low (dismally low!) MPG trucks and SUVs, and also produce a stellar group of hybrids.
Others produce mildly (VERY mildly!) better MPG trucks and SUVs and NO stellar hybrids.
Again, look at sales numbers. I think that says all that needs to be said. Green sales versus green ads. Which do you think will truly help the average person "drive green" today?
People want real cars with real efficiency and real emissions reductions. so far, the volt ain't it. Other car companies are selling it. today.
Sure, some car companies produce low (dismally low!) MPG trucks and SUVs, and also produce a stellar group of hybrids.
Others produce mildly (VERY mildly!) better MPG trucks and SUVs and NO stellar hybrids.
Again, look at sales numbers. I think that says all that needs to be said. Green sales versus green ads. Which do you think will truly help the average person "drive green" today?
However based on the behavior of the people I work with, Japanese hybrids were before their time. Everyone talked about hybrids, but no one actually bought one. With gas under $2.00 a gallon almost no one cared about fuel economy (Green-Hybrid members excepted, of course).
Historically the US has been the inventor, investing tons of money in development only to have cheep Asian knockoffs undercut American made products (sorry about the broad brush strokes). This time it was Japan doing all the legwork on hybrids. GM might have done a smart thing by waiting.
Demand for hybrid cars is highly dependent on fuel prices. If gas was $1.50 a gallon you would have trouble giving an older used hybrid with potential battery pack issues away. The landscape changes quite a bit with gas at $3.50 a gallon, all of a sudden hybrids are worth their weight in gold.
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