Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
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Re: Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
Originally Posted by bar10dah
Good way to collect nails before they imbed into your tires, too.
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Re: Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
Originally Posted by gonavy
Yes; preying on the combination of conspiracy and general scientific ignorance. If it sounds sciency enough, it MUST be true, right?
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Re: Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
Hi,
Ok:
What was your before fuel economy?
What is your after fuel economy?
How did you measure it?
Have you taken it off and seen a return to the original fuel economy?
Did you read the great write up from the EPA about this product?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/devices/pb82194937.pdf
". . . The "Super-Mag Fuel Extender" consists of a set of two rectangular magnets mounted on plates, two steel plates, and two plastic ties that are installed around a vehicle's fuel line, about 3 inches from the carburator. The magnets and plates are arranged so as to form an open-ended four-sided box surrounding the fuel line. A claim for the device's effectiveness appears in a message on the package label, which reads "Transforms Molecular Properties of Liquid Fuel to Maximum Combustion Efficiency." . . .
The EPA evaluation of the device using three vehicles, showed that there was no emission or fuel economy benefit due to the installation of the "Super-Mag Fuel Extender."
This was a report made at the request of "the Consumer Office of the Metropolitan District Attorney for Denver, Colorado."
Hummm, do you live in Colorado, near Denver?
This is just another SPAM touting a fraud. But no doubt, it may make another amusing set of PowerPoint engineering charts . . .
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
Originally Posted by SretiCentV
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What was your before fuel economy?
What is your after fuel economy?
How did you measure it?
Have you taken it off and seen a return to the original fuel economy?
Did you read the great write up from the EPA about this product?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/devices/pb82194937.pdf
". . . The "Super-Mag Fuel Extender" consists of a set of two rectangular magnets mounted on plates, two steel plates, and two plastic ties that are installed around a vehicle's fuel line, about 3 inches from the carburator. The magnets and plates are arranged so as to form an open-ended four-sided box surrounding the fuel line. A claim for the device's effectiveness appears in a message on the package label, which reads "Transforms Molecular Properties of Liquid Fuel to Maximum Combustion Efficiency." . . .
The EPA evaluation of the device using three vehicles, showed that there was no emission or fuel economy benefit due to the installation of the "Super-Mag Fuel Extender."
This was a report made at the request of "the Consumer Office of the Metropolitan District Attorney for Denver, Colorado."
Hummm, do you live in Colorado, near Denver?
This is just another SPAM touting a fraud. But no doubt, it may make another amusing set of PowerPoint engineering charts . . .
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
Last edited by Pravus Prime; Jun 20, 2006 at 01:20 PM. Reason: Changed Quote.
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Re: Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
Hi David,
I'd like to recommend this US Environmental Protection Agency site that lists common energy frauds:
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
I'm curious, did you get a chance to study any physics or chemistry in school? The reason I ask is there are some very readable books on both subjects around. With a little bit of study, you'll gain a lot of insight and be less subject to "Cartoon Physics" as documented by MIT. Here is another excellent list.
Bob Wilson
Originally Posted by Aussie
I found this link and was wondering if this is really true? Has anyone heard of this before?. . .
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
I'm curious, did you get a chance to study any physics or chemistry in school? The reason I ask is there are some very readable books on both subjects around. With a little bit of study, you'll gain a lot of insight and be less subject to "Cartoon Physics" as documented by MIT. Here is another excellent list.
Bob Wilson
Last edited by bwilson4web; Jun 20, 2006 at 11:37 AM.
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Re: Do magnets REALLY help fuel economy
Originally Posted by bwilson4web
Hi,
Ok:
What was your before fuel economy?
What is your after fuel economy?
How did you measure it?
Have you taken it off and seen a return to the original fuel economy?
Did you read the great write up from the EPA about this product?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/devices/pb82194937.pdf
". . . The "Super-Mag Fuel Extender" consists of a set of two rectangular magents mounted on plages, two steel plates, and two plastic ties that are installed around a vehicle's fuel line, about 3 inches from the carburator. The magnets and plates are arranged so as to form an open-ended four-sided box surrounding the fuel line. A claim for the device's effectiveness appears in a message on the package label, which reads "Transforms Molecular Properties of Liquid Fuel to Maximum Conbustion Efficiency." . . .
The EPA evaluation of the device using three vehicles, showed that there was no emission or fuel economy benefit due to the installation of the "Super-Mag Fuel Extender."
This was a report made at the request of "the Consumer Office of the Metropolitan District Attorney for Denver, Colorado."
Hummm, do you live in Colorado, near Denver?
This is just another SPAM touting a fraud. But no doubt, it may make another amusing set of PowerPoint engineering charts . . .
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
Ok:
What was your before fuel economy?
What is your after fuel economy?
How did you measure it?
Have you taken it off and seen a return to the original fuel economy?
Did you read the great write up from the EPA about this product?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/devices/pb82194937.pdf
". . . The "Super-Mag Fuel Extender" consists of a set of two rectangular magents mounted on plages, two steel plates, and two plastic ties that are installed around a vehicle's fuel line, about 3 inches from the carburator. The magnets and plates are arranged so as to form an open-ended four-sided box surrounding the fuel line. A claim for the device's effectiveness appears in a message on the package label, which reads "Transforms Molecular Properties of Liquid Fuel to Maximum Conbustion Efficiency." . . .
The EPA evaluation of the device using three vehicles, showed that there was no emission or fuel economy benefit due to the installation of the "Super-Mag Fuel Extender."
This was a report made at the request of "the Consumer Office of the Metropolitan District Attorney for Denver, Colorado."
Hummm, do you live in Colorado, near Denver?
This is just another SPAM touting a fraud. But no doubt, it may make another amusing set of PowerPoint engineering charts . . .
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
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