2009 FEH No crank no start

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Old 01-27-2024, 04:19 AM
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Angry 2009 FEH No crank no start

Went out to start my usually reliable 2009 FEH the other day and when I turned the key on the only light that came on was the airbag light??? Usually the entire instrument cluster would light up. Got out my trusty Bosch OBD II reader and found P0A1F code. I was not too sure what to do about that so I got FORScan on my pc and went to work on that ...........Now I am pretty confused and need some help. Please see attached FORScan printout. HELP!!!!!!!!,

FORScan:

===PCM DTC P0562:00-2A===
Code: P0562 - System Voltage Low

Status (-2A):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P0562:00-2A===

===PCM DTC P1000:00-2B===
Code: P1000 - OBD Systems Readiness Test Not Complete

Status (-2B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P1000:00-2B===

===PCM DTC U0155:00-2B===
Code: U0155 - Lost Communication With Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Control Module

Status (-2B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC U0155:00-2B===

===OBDII DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: On Board Diagnostic II

===END OBDII DTC None===

===RCM DTC U0155:00-58===
Code: U0155 - Lost Communication With Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Control Module

Status (-58):
- Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC
- Test not complete

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC U0155:00-58===

===RCM DTC U0253:00-58===
Code: U0253 - Lost Communication With Accessory Protocol Interface Module

Status (-58):
- Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC
- Test not complete

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC U0253:00-58===

===RCM DTC U3003:16-58===
Code: U3003 - Battery Voltage

Additional Fault Symptom (:16):
- Circuit Voltage Below Threshold

Status (-58):
- Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC
- Test not complete

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC U3003:16-58===

===TCM DTC P1260-FF===
Code: P1260 - Engine disabled by PATS

Module: Transmission Control Module

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

THEFT Detected, Vehicle Immobilized.

This DTC may be caused by :

Suspect PATS module.

Suspect circuit fault between PCM and PATS.

Suspect PCM.

===END TCM DTC P1260-FF===

===BCM DTC P0A1F-60===
Code: P0A1F - Battery Energy Control Module

Status (-60):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Battery Control Module

===END BCM DTC P0A1F-60===

===PSCM DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: Power Steering Control Module

===END PSCM DTC None===

 
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Last edited by phoenixus2000; 01-27-2024 at 04:30 AM. Reason: add FORScan data
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Old 01-27-2024, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

How old is your 12 volt battery? What condition is it in?
 
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Old 01-27-2024, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

Had it for a couple of years it seems weak but I put my jumpbox on it but iI still was not able to start.
 
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Old 01-27-2024, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

Concur that everything looks like 12V issues. Jumpbox may be insufficient. Recommend you connect to jump vehicle with it running to ensure elevated 12V.

Once in, clear all DTC and attempt start. If no start, re-read DTC.

Go into the BCM, display all parameters that DON'T look like an error code. Screencap and paste.
 
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Old 01-30-2024, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

Installed new 12v Battery, cleared codes, no start so I ran rescan. Results were as follows:
===PCM DTC P0A1F:00-27===
Code: P0A1F - Battery Energy Control Module 'A' Performance

Status (-27):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P0A1F:00-27===

===PCM DTC P1000:00-2B===
Code: P1000 - OBD Systems Readiness Test Not Complete

Status (-2B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P1000:00-2B===

===PCM DTC P1A10:00-2B===
Code: P1A10 - Hybrid Powertrain Control Module - Battery Disabled

Status (-2B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P1A10:00-2B===

===PCM DTC U0155:00-2B===
Code: U0155 - Lost Communication With Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Control Module

Status (-2B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC U0155:00-2B===

===OBDII DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: On Board Diagnostic II

===END OBDII DTC None===

===RCM DTC U0155:00-8B===
Code: U0155 - Lost Communication With Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Control Module

Status (-8B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC U0155:00-8B===

===RCM DTC U0253:00-0B===
Code: U0253 - Lost Communication With Accessory Protocol Interface Module

Status (-0B):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC U0253:00-0B===

===TCM DTC P1260-FF===
Code: P1260 - Engine disabled by PATS

Module: Transmission Control Module

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

THEFT Detected, Vehicle Immobilized.

This DTC may be caused by :

Suspect PATS module.

Suspect circuit fault between PCM and PATS.

Suspect PCM.

===END TCM DTC P1260-FF===

===BCM DTC P0A1F-60===
Code: P0A1F - Battery Energy Control Module

Status (-60):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Battery Control Module

===END BCM DTC P0A1F-60===

===PSCM DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: Power Steering Control Module

===END PSCM DTC None===

Still confused any help that someone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old 02-22-2024, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

What did the dealer told you about it ?
 

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Old 03-01-2024, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 2009 FEH No crank no start

===TCM DTC P1260-FF===
Code: P1260 - Engine disabled by PATS

Module: Transmission Control Module

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

THEFT Detected, Vehicle Immobilized.

This DTC may be caused by :

Suspect PATS module.

Suspect circuit fault between PCM and PATS.

Suspect PCM.

===END TCM DTC P1260-FF===


>>>>>> I would suspect PATS or the PCM. Try the instructions in this link to start your vehicle.

Ford PATs System Troubleshooting & How-to Guide | Truck of Mine

If no go, I would suspect the PCM if the PCM is original eg 15 years old. Sounds like the vehicle may be worth repairing. I would then discuss the PCM issue with a knowledgeable FEH mechanic. My 2010 had a PCM replaced about 5 years ago with a rebuilt unit provided by Ford. No PCM issues since. On the PATS side, if the link doesn't help - you probably need to take it in. Let us know what happens.
 
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