2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
#31
09-25-2021, 04:53 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
Yeah but he’s also the guy that sounded very skeptical about allowing his shop work on hybrids because he doesn’t have a hybrid specialist and he also caught himself and wouldn’t schedule with me yet because he needs to speak to his head mechanic who wasn’t in at the time. That price very quickly could change and not only that - they don’t have availability for almost 4 weeks (I’m in NJ and shops are still playing catch up from all the flooding weeks ago.)
I really would like this **** HV push button to work and power the HV battery just enough to get it started. I’m not sure if the battery hits a certain threshold it disables the push button?
I really would like this **** HV push button to work and power the HV battery just enough to get it started. I’m not sure if the battery hits a certain threshold it disables the push button?
#32
09-25-2021, 04:55 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
Once the battery has discharged to a certain point the NiMH chemistry changes and it can take a long time with the charger SKeith recommends to get it to bounce back and accept a normal charge again. This is from what I have read, not experienced directly since it has never happened to mine, but I see no reason to disbelieve it. That may be why you are having problems with the button. As far as I know there is no "disabling" of the button, but people DO recommend trying it several times with an *auxiliary* vehicle ALSO attached to the FEH battery via jumper cables. You might try that. Get another good car that is running, hook up jumper cables between that car and the 12V FEH and hit the button. Then wait. Then hit the button. Then wait. Then hit the button. Then wait. Then try to monitor the voltage and see what you have and see if it is improving.
That's the best advice I've got, otherwise you're looking at the guy you're talking about. I am sure SKeith is correct when he talks about the NiMH chemistry change that causes the battery pack to be "reluctant" to accept a baseline charge until that evens out, and that can take time and effort. Good luck!
Also make sure the "light" on the button lights up and how long it stays lit before it shuts off. Make sure it's actually working!
That's the best advice I've got, otherwise you're looking at the guy you're talking about. I am sure SKeith is correct when he talks about the NiMH chemistry change that causes the battery pack to be "reluctant" to accept a baseline charge until that evens out, and that can take time and effort. Good luck!
Also make sure the "light" on the button lights up and how long it stays lit before it shuts off. Make sure it's actually working!
I’m all about efficiency. I can’t stand being wasteful - whether it’s with time or money.
Definitely appreciate all the advice. I’m going to have to find a laptop to plug this thing into though.
#33
09-25-2021, 05:07 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
If the button doesn't work and you KNOW the battery pack and its associated hardware are internally correct for the year of the car, then you suspect the button or the wiring has gotten munged somehow. It's also possible the little light has blown out! I don't even know if it's an LED or an incandescent! Maybe the connector fell off!
At that point you're looking at finding a button that works or getting the battery charged by yourself or someone else. Always begin with the cheapest fix and work up from there.
At that point you're looking at finding a button that works or getting the battery charged by yourself or someone else. Always begin with the cheapest fix and work up from there.
#34
09-25-2021, 05:16 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
If the button doesn't work and you KNOW the battery pack and its associated hardware are internally correct for the year of the car, then you suspect the button or the wiring has gotten munged somehow. It's also possible the little light has blown out! I don't even know if it's an LED or an incandescent! Maybe the connector fell off!
At that point you're looking at finding a button that works or getting the battery charged by yourself or someone else. Always begin with the cheapest fix and work up from there.
At that point you're looking at finding a button that works or getting the battery charged by yourself or someone else. Always begin with the cheapest fix and work up from there.
I kinda was doing that. First I started by replacing the ignition switch and checking all the fuses/relays. But now I’m reading there are computers and relays for the HV, and I don’t even know if I want to play with all that.
Worst part is, I bought this just last summer and couldn’t use it until practically fall because MVCs were all closed in NJ and I couldn’t get it registered. So I bought it at 39K miles and currently it’s at 41K miles and it already has given me all these headaches. Had I know hybrids were this much of a pain in the *** I would have just paid more money and got a different car.
#35
09-25-2021, 05:17 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
Also, just reading between the lines here - and correct me if I'm wrong - it sounds like you've got one heck of a badly flooded 2007 FEH on your hands. I have friends in NJ and I've seen the pictures of the underwater Scubaseball stadium and train station near Bridgewater.
#36
09-25-2021, 05:20 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
Also, just reading between the lines here - and correct me if I'm wrong - it sounds like you've got one heck of a badly flooded 2007 FEH on your hands. I have friends in NJ and I've seen the pictures of the underwater Scubaseball stadium and train station near Bridgewater.
#37
09-25-2021, 05:36 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
I know that a lot of cars there have become submarines and even the dealerships aren't accustomed to working on U-boats.
#38
09-25-2021, 05:48 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
Well I truly wish you the best of luck with it and please make sure you don't try to attach any kind of sidecar to it. I know that a lot of cars there have become submarines and even the dealerships aren't accustomed to working on U-boats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjBlPucpd0
I know that a lot of cars there have become submarines and even the dealerships aren't accustomed to working on U-boats.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjBlPucpd0
#39
09-25-2021, 06:52 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
I have to look at that, but SKeith's thread about it is not hard to follow, I'm a noob too, and I'm building one (even though I don't need one yet) this winter. It's really pretty simple, it's an off-the-shelf device and some wiring and diodes. It'll be fun to put it together and everyone here knows it works. Then you stash it in the car and have AC powered emergency charging available any time, all the time.
I'll look at your link later tonight.
I'll look at your link later tonight.
#40
09-25-2021, 09:10 PM
Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid won’t start ($100 to whoever gives me the right solution)
- The Forscan Android app will do everything you need at this point, skip the laptop.
- The Rebalance function has nothing to do with this problem, maybe later when you get it running.
- In the Forscan app, add State of Charge and HV battery voltage to the Dashboard so you can read them. What are they?
- The purpose of the ammeter on the 12v battery is to confirm that the HV jump start function isn't working & it's not just the LED burned out. Is there any change in current when the button is pressed?
- All of the DTC codes you see with Forscan can be cleared with Forscan. They are stored in memory but maybe not relevant to the problem now. I would record them all, then clear them, and see what codes come up now.
