Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
#11
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
It doesn't appear to have the navigation option. Bummer. However, it would work for me but on those times when I go to San Diego, I'd run out of fuel.
How long does it take to fill a tank? What is the demand level for these things?
Thanks,
Shawn
How long does it take to fill a tank? What is the demand level for these things?
Thanks,
Shawn
#12
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
CNG is a good way to go if you can find one. They still qualify for the carpool lanes and according to a good friend who works at one of the larger transit agencies in the area said that once hydrogen fuel takes hold here (probably 5 years) it is a very easy conversion to make a cng vehicle accept hydrogen fuel. They are purchasing all of their new fleet vehicles with this in mind.
#13
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
Originally Posted by shawnb
It doesn't appear to have the navigation option. Bummer. However, it would work for me but on those times when I go to San Diego, I'd run out of fuel.
How long does it take to fill a tank? What is the demand level for these things?
How long does it take to fill a tank? What is the demand level for these things?
The demand and the numbers sold are very small - in the hundreds. I suspect that the carpool stickers for hybrids in California are a GX killer. But they weren't selling much before the stickers either.
#14
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
Somebody said the wait is about a year for one of these. That seems a little far fetched Apparently they are as peppy as a regular LX. If you drive it hard I'm sure the mileage is less than the claimed 200 miles. They apparently take all night(??) to fill at home.
#16
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
Originally Posted by shawnb
I live in an apartment building so I would have no option to refill at home.
Thanks,
Shawn
Thanks,
Shawn
#17
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
To all on this thread:
Don't forget that there are tax incentives for installing the phill. I believe that after those it actually costs 1K. Plus the GX has the largest tax credit of any vehicle out there.
But, I was not impressed with the new one. It looks poorly equipped for the (inflated) price. The base is more than the hybrid while being equipped somewhere in between a DX and LX from what I can tell. I think it only has two speakers?
Don't forget that there are tax incentives for installing the phill. I believe that after those it actually costs 1K. Plus the GX has the largest tax credit of any vehicle out there.
But, I was not impressed with the new one. It looks poorly equipped for the (inflated) price. The base is more than the hybrid while being equipped somewhere in between a DX and LX from what I can tell. I think it only has two speakers?
Originally Posted by SrfCity
Somebody mentioned that I should have gotten it. You can add the fill up gizmo to your NG hook up at home. I think the thing is $4K or so. There are NG fill up places locally and it cost's something like $1.20 per gallon comparatively. Plus life time carpool access. It only goes 200 miles per tank but that'd be NP for me. It'd be kinda nice thinking that the Fed's couldn't just pull the plug on the carpool thing when they feel like it, like they can with the Hybrid.(here in CA anyway) It looks like the car would be about $30K with the fill up gizmo.
Anyone think it'd be worth it? Maybe something to think about down the road.
Anyone think it'd be worth it? Maybe something to think about down the road.
#18
Re: Did you think about the Civic GX NGV??
I was waffling on the GX vs. the hybrid and it came down to the research that I did was that the California Utilities were attempting to charge a different rate for fueling from home. The natural gas for the vehicle needed to be "cleaner" therefore would cost more similar to market going rates for gasoline. Also the resale values of GX's were not that great and the mileage per tank was awful. To get decent tank mileage, the tank would need to be replaced with a high compression one which would eliminate half of the trunk. While there are a number of hi-compression fueling stations most are low pressure meaning that it can take 10-20 minutes to fill the tank just to travel a max of 200 miles with a standard tank.
Once Hybrids were allowed onto the carpool lane, that sealed the deal for me.
Jesse
Once Hybrids were allowed onto the carpool lane, that sealed the deal for me.
Jesse
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