View Poll Results: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
The fact that the fuel refill door can be opened while driving
3
3.33%
The location of the ECO button
50
55.56%
The difficulty required to use the AUX MP3 plug
10
11.11%
Other, please let us know
19
21.11%
Nothing, I think my TCH is perfect!
8
8.89%
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What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
Professional Hacker
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 171
From: Southern California
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
My wife had a 95 Civic EX, which she loved. To this day it's still her favorite car. It was totaled when an elderly woman ran a stop and my wife t-boned her at 50. We replaced it with a 2001 Civic EX.. BIG mistake. After 3 years of recalls and failures it was sold and replaced with a 2004 RAV4. Which she loves.. I know honda had a change in the design department in 2000, but man the quality dropped. In the first year of that 2001 Civic's life the air bag controller failed, the ABS failed, BOTH CV Joints failed the drivers window failed, the sunroof failed (OPEN), one of the headlights split open and the drivers door could only be opened from the outside. After selling it to some poor sucker, we got the RAV4 and we have never in almost 5 years had it in the shop for anything other than scheduled service.
I just sold my 2003 VW Bora (imported Jetta) and after 5 years with me, it too has never been in the shop for anymore than an oil change. I'm hoping my TCH will treat me as well.
Bottom line for me -- No more Honda's. I DO NOT like the new body designs, and I feel that Honda has taken the stand that cars should be disposable.
I just sold my 2003 VW Bora (imported Jetta) and after 5 years with me, it too has never been in the shop for anymore than an oil change. I'm hoping my TCH will treat me as well.
Bottom line for me -- No more Honda's. I DO NOT like the new body designs, and I feel that Honda has taken the stand that cars should be disposable.
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 373
From: Houston, Texas
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
From Smilin' Jack's list of the 25 dumbest things about the TCH:
Number 22: There is no accessory power when the car is turned off.
Some of us would have good use for a cigarette lighter style 12 volt outlet that stays hot even when the car is turned off. Sometimes you want to charge a cell phone without leaving the system on (or even even without leaving it in the accessory position). Often it's a useful diagnostic move to read the battery voltage with nothing else on, and a "hot" accessory outlet is convenient for that, etc. Even more useful: Some battery chargers (and even some slow charge jumper cables) come with a cigarette lighter plug so that you can put a slow charge onto your car battery simply by plugging into the outlet. this can be not anly a convenient way to do it , but also a safer way than clamping onto the battery. I could go on and on.
Granted, there are other uses for which it is convenient to have the accessory outlet go off with the switch, but - hey - we have two of them anyway. Why not do one each way? This would be a no cost item if designed in.
Number 22: There is no accessory power when the car is turned off.
Some of us would have good use for a cigarette lighter style 12 volt outlet that stays hot even when the car is turned off. Sometimes you want to charge a cell phone without leaving the system on (or even even without leaving it in the accessory position). Often it's a useful diagnostic move to read the battery voltage with nothing else on, and a "hot" accessory outlet is convenient for that, etc. Even more useful: Some battery chargers (and even some slow charge jumper cables) come with a cigarette lighter plug so that you can put a slow charge onto your car battery simply by plugging into the outlet. this can be not anly a convenient way to do it , but also a safer way than clamping onto the battery. I could go on and on.
Granted, there are other uses for which it is convenient to have the accessory outlet go off with the switch, but - hey - we have two of them anyway. Why not do one each way? This would be a no cost item if designed in.
Last edited by Smilin' Jack; Aug 2, 2008 at 03:46 PM. Reason: typos
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
After just under a week of driving, what bothers me the most is the narrow field of view to be had in the rear-view! I feel like I'm driving a tank and looking out of a narrow slot each time I take a look in the mirror.
The spread of backup cameras seems to indicate that the view out of the back of the car is far too small, but on top of that, the narrow rear view means I (for one) am constantly readjusting it so the narrow mirror and narrow rear glass line up, so I'm not staring at the top of the back seat or off to the side or etc. perhaps I just move position when I'm driving more than most
The spread of backup cameras seems to indicate that the view out of the back of the car is far too small, but on top of that, the narrow rear view means I (for one) am constantly readjusting it so the narrow mirror and narrow rear glass line up, so I'm not staring at the top of the back seat or off to the side or etc. perhaps I just move position when I'm driving more than most
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 281
From: Jacksonville, FL
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
After just under a week of driving, what bothers me the most is the narrow field of view to be had in the rear-view! I feel like I'm driving a tank and looking out of a narrow slot each time I take a look in the mirror.
The spread of backup cameras seems to indicate that the view out of the back of the car is far too small, but on top of that, the narrow rear view means I (for one) am constantly readjusting it so the narrow mirror and narrow rear glass line up, so I'm not staring at the top of the back seat or off to the side or etc. perhaps I just move position when I'm driving more than most
The spread of backup cameras seems to indicate that the view out of the back of the car is far too small, but on top of that, the narrow rear view means I (for one) am constantly readjusting it so the narrow mirror and narrow rear glass line up, so I'm not staring at the top of the back seat or off to the side or etc. perhaps I just move position when I'm driving more than most
Although there have been times I've wished for a rear wiper like I had in my previous vehicle...It seems the auto stylists are going through a phase where they torture sheet metal, create lousy sight lines, and then sell $2500 backup cameras so you don't crash into stuff.
Enthusiast
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
Well, because obviously the flow of the car's body is more important than how well you can avoid backing over kittens (Man, someone ought to put it like that to the designers in public 
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,051
From: New Jersey
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
Not sure if it's design, or it it's the desire to be aerodynamic.
I think the sleek lines present a smoother air flow than the cars with a higher profile.
This design, while difficult to see what's behind you, might increase the fuel economy.
I think the sleek lines present a smoother air flow than the cars with a higher profile.
This design, while difficult to see what's behind you, might increase the fuel economy.
Professional Hacker
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 171
From: Southern California
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
I don't know if this has been mention, or maybe I'm just an idiot... but where the hell is the dimmer for the dash lights??? The lighting around the NAV system is SOOO FREAKING bright at night.
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 661
From: Tucson, AZ
Re: What is the dumbest part of the TCH?
The odometer reset button (lower right of the instrument cluster) rotates. At the full most clockwise position, it has a detent, that keeps the dash lighting at it brightest (daytime setting) all the time. Try turning this counterclockwise to lower the brights.
