Smart Key & Trunk Release
slightly off topic...
Yes, but that location is where a few of my older old cars had their gas tank release, so the last few times I got gas, I mistakenly popped open the trunk for the gas station attendant (in NJ, it's full service only).
Yes, but that location is where a few of my older old cars had their gas tank release, so the last few times I got gas, I mistakenly popped open the trunk for the gas station attendant (in NJ, it's full service only).
While the front doors are constantly querying for a key (every second?) and usually knows a key is present before your hand reaches the door handle, I don't believe the trunk interfaces with the Bluetooth key until after the trunk switch is pressed.
-- Alan
Well I will be having them look at the trunk release button tomorrow while I get the car inspected. Will post when I get the news. Hopefully this is simply a matter of reprogramming what the key can do.
It does take a second for the trunk to open from the trunk lid switch, but a quick press will work. I routinely tap the button, drop my hand, wait a second, and then the trunk pops open. No need to keep the button pressed while waiting for the electronics to validate the key (I am assuming this is what is happening) and release the trunk.
While the front doors are constantly querying for a key (every second?) and usually knows a key is present before your hand reaches the door handle, I don't believe the trunk interfaces with the Bluetooth key until after the trunk switch is pressed.
-- Alan
While the front doors are constantly querying for a key (every second?) and usually knows a key is present before your hand reaches the door handle, I don't believe the trunk interfaces with the Bluetooth key until after the trunk switch is pressed.
-- Alan
Well took it to the dealership, and they said that the trunk latch wasn't plugged in. I made the smart remark, well it will never work that way will it? ;-). So all is good.
Part of the check sheet reads:
C. Check the operation of the trunk opener — Check that the trunk lid is unlocked by pulling the outside handle.
You most likely paid for them to do perform the service.Glad it was an "easy" fix.
As far as I know, there are only four modes for the TCH key (listing for each - type; function; mode; range):
- Bluetooth; doors, trunk, and start functions; only responds to queries from the car (front doors, trunk, and interior); range about 5 feet.
- non-Bluetooth RF; doors, trunk, and alarm functions; transmits only, and only when one of the fob buttons are pressed; significant range (over 50 feet, depending on battery strength and environment).
- RFID; starting function; passive (does not use the fob battery-gets its energy from the car); within about an inch of the START button.
- mechanical key; door function; does not transmit (does not use the fob battery!); zero range only!
If this summary is correct, then it is the Bluetooth RF that enables the door handle switches to unlock the doors. Anyone know differently?
-- Alan
- Bluetooth; doors, trunk, and start functions; only responds to queries from the car (front doors, trunk, and interior); range about 5 feet.
- non-Bluetooth RF; doors, trunk, and alarm functions; transmits only, and only when one of the fob buttons are pressed; significant range (over 50 feet, depending on battery strength and environment).
- RFID; starting function; passive (does not use the fob battery-gets its energy from the car); within about an inch of the START button.
- mechanical key; door function; does not transmit (does not use the fob battery!); zero range only!
If this summary is correct, then it is the Bluetooth RF that enables the door handle switches to unlock the doors. Anyone know differently?
-- Alan
alan_in_tempe — The following is my understanding about the different radio frequencies used by the TCH's systems:
Stan
- Smart Key: Fob-to-vehicle communication — 312-315 MHz (see TSB EL015-06 attached)
- Smart Key: Vehicle-to-fob communication — 134.2 kHz (see TSB EL015-06 attached)
- Bluetooth: 2.4 GHz
- Tire Pressue Monitor: 314.98 MHz (see page CH-73 from "TCH New Car Features" attached)
Stan
Last edited by SPL; Feb 21, 2008 at 09:07 AM. Reason: Corrected my first two points — see posts #20, 21 below.
I interpret the TSB slightly differently.
134.2 kHz is used for all vehicle to key communications (such as key queries).
312-315 mHz is used for all key to vehicle communications (incl. response to queries from vehicle and button presses on key).
I agree, there's no mention of Bluetooth being used.
134.2 kHz is used for all vehicle to key communications (such as key queries).
312-315 mHz is used for all key to vehicle communications (incl. response to queries from vehicle and button presses on key).
I agree, there's no mention of Bluetooth being used.



