SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
#32
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
I changed my oil and filter for the first time today and I went with 5-20 GTX at 1,939 miles (I always change my oil at 3000 mile intervals).
You can only get 0-20 in synthetic.
Make sure you have a big pair of channel lock pliers as the original Toyota filter has no prevision for a socket like the K&N filter that I replaced it with.
FWIW, my dealer told me that they do not use synthetic.
You can only get 0-20 in synthetic.
Make sure you have a big pair of channel lock pliers as the original Toyota filter has no prevision for a socket like the K&N filter that I replaced it with.
FWIW, my dealer told me that they do not use synthetic.
Last edited by AKM; 08-27-2006 at 12:44 PM.
#33
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
Originally Posted by lars-ss
I'm a big synthetic oil proponent, and I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
I Googled "valve drive seals" and "mobil 1" and found no one who says they put Mobil 1 in at 5,000 miles and suffered valve guide seal damage attributable to Mobil 1.
It appears that what happens is the thinner synthetics EXPOSE valve guide seal leaks which are caused by previously damaged or inferior valve seal components. Certain types of valve guide seals can be damaged by any petroleum product.
Maybe Toyota just used a poor or cheap seal on the Tercel. Maybe they got a bad batch from the supplier.
My point is that if Mobil 1 ROUTINELY damaged different engine parts more than standard dino oil does, we would know about it.
I Googled "valve drive seals" and "mobil 1" and found no one who says they put Mobil 1 in at 5,000 miles and suffered valve guide seal damage attributable to Mobil 1.
It appears that what happens is the thinner synthetics EXPOSE valve guide seal leaks which are caused by previously damaged or inferior valve seal components. Certain types of valve guide seals can be damaged by any petroleum product.
Maybe Toyota just used a poor or cheap seal on the Tercel. Maybe they got a bad batch from the supplier.
My point is that if Mobil 1 ROUTINELY damaged different engine parts more than standard dino oil does, we would know about it.
#35
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
I will shed some light from an experienced person using Mobil 1 fully synthetic oil for the last 13+ years in my Toyotas including Camrys. It is one of the best ones with no issues so far. The switch to 100% fully synthetic Mobil 1 was always after the first oil change from Toyota manufacturer. The oil grade was 10W30, now I use 5W30 (06 Sienna) and will be 0W20 or 5W20 for my future 07 TCH.
Last edited by agnosto; 08-27-2006 at 07:18 AM.
#36
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
Yesterday I took my Camry Hybrid in for its first oil change at 2019 miles, but 5 months old. I mentioned to the service tech that it required 0W20 or 5W20 grade oil, and he told me that they would use the proper oil. Unfortunately, I looked at the invoice completely after I got the car home and it said that they used bulk 10W30 oil. They do a lot of oil changes on Saturday mornings and say that they only have one person doing oil changes on Saturdays(the day that most people bring in the car for oil change) so, it must be like assembly line, yet takes several hours to get it done. I have e-mailed the service department to ask them to explain why they did not use the recommended oil. If Toyota allows the dealers to sell the hybrids, they should require them to follow their recommendations on servicing these vehicles. If my engine is damaged and the invoices show that they used 10W30 oil, what will this do to the warrenty, and to my extended warrenty. I also, prepaid for the 1st year of service, including oil change. This is suppose to be the best dealer in my area.
#38
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
Yesterday I took my Camry Hybrid in for its first oil change at 2019 miles, but 5 months old. I mentioned to the service tech that it required 0W20 or 5W20 grade oil, and he told me that they would use the proper oil. Unfortunately, I looked at the invoice completely after I got the car home and it said that they used bulk 10W30 oil. They do a lot of oil changes on Saturday mornings and say that they only have one person doing oil changes on Saturdays(the day that most people bring in the car for oil change) so, it must be like assembly line, yet takes several hours to get it done. I have e-mailed the service department to ask them to explain why they did not use the recommended oil. If Toyota allows the dealers to sell the hybrids, they should require them to follow their recommendations on servicing these vehicles. If my engine is damaged and the invoices show that they used 10W30 oil, what will this do to the warrenty, and to my extended warrenty. I also, prepaid for the 1st year of service, including oil change. This is suppose to be the best dealer in my area.
If it were me, I would speak to the service manager and request that they remove the incorrect oil, and put the proper oil in your car. Toyota specified oil type 0W20 or 5W20 for a reason. Make sure your TOYOTA dealer is following Toyot's recommendations.
#39
Re: SAE 5W-20 or 0W-20?
Thanks for the input. The service manager replied to my e-mail and said that he checked it out and that the technician used the bottled 5W20 oil and not the bulk 10W30 oil and that the mistake was on the invoice from the parts department. He said that if he even thought that they had used the 10W30, that he would replace it immediately with the correct oil. I guess I will never know for sure.
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