P0A80 code for good HV battery?

Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:08 AM
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Please pardon my ignorace, especially about "keep it in neutral and let it run down until the car shut off". Normally when I switch the Camry on, I hear a beep after a second or so and then after a few more seconds, the engine starts for the warmup cycle (regardless of battery SoC). Since the battery was full from the overnight charge, I thought I shouldn't let the engine start, so as soon as I switched on the car and heard the beep, I switched the gear to N (which prevented the engine from coming on) and then started the A/C, etc., for the discharge test. I then terminated the HA battery check at 40% SoC and then switched the gear to Park and as soon as I did that the engine came on to bring the battery back to 50% SoC. Should I have switched off the car, while still in N? The engine won't come on as long as I am in "N". If you can explain "keep it in neutral and let it run down until the car shut off" in the Camry context, I would be grateful. If I have it in Neutral (without the Engine on), will the car shut off if the HV battery SoC falls to some level below 40% SoC?

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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:13 AM
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Also, since I messed up the discharge, would you recommend terminating the bulb discharge and hooking the charger back up for 4 hrs?
 
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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Power on
Allow engine to start
Immediately shift to N (can't charge in N, so spark for engine run becomes a 12V load powered by the HV battery)
Initiate discharge test
Ignore "shift out of N" warning
A/C compressor should cycle off and blow warm
discharge until error codes, engine shut off or fast idle on engine (may hear HV battery relay click open simultaneously)

IIRC, you get the "shift out of N" warning somewhere around 25% SoC. It will usually go to 0% before it trips the relay and disconnects the batter.



 
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by srivenkat
Also, since I messed up the discharge, would you recommend terminating the bulb discharge and hooking the charger back up for 4 hrs?
No. That would be completely counterproductive. Just continue with discharge.
 
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by S Keith
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IIRC, you get the "shift out of N" warning somewhere around 25% SoC. It will usually go to 0% before it trips the relay and disconnects the batter.
Thanks, Mr. Keith. So, essentially, I would switch off the car at 0% SoC? Just wanted to understand better.
 
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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No. You switch off the car when it disconnects the hybrid battery from the system, i.e., when the car refuses to discharge the HV battery anymore - it ends the test for you. This generally occurs well after 0% is attained.
 
Old Sep 17, 2020 | 04:31 AM
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Thanks for the explanation, Mr. Keith. I did the discharge to 163V (65W bulbs all the way) and then charged for 4 hours, which seemed to take the SoC to ~50% because when I switched the car on, I saw 3 bars and the engine came on but shut down after the routine warm-up. I am going to do start with some light driving to 60% SoC and then drive normally and then report back with a HA test report.

Also, I am curious as to why you didn't recommend a balancing 24-hour charge this time after the discharge.
 
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That probably still works, but the most important is the periodic evaluation.

I would recommend ONLY the evaluation routinely.

If the evaluation demonstrates clear deterioration, single reconditioning cycle WITHOUT the 24 hour charge:
  1. Overnight 8-12 hr charge from about 60% SoC
  2. SINGLE discharge to 163V
  3. 4 hour charge
  4. Idle charge to engine off
  5. Very light driving until battery at ~60%.
Approximately 7 days/200 miles after reconditioning cycle, repeat discharge test to evaluate effect.

It's very easy to "over-use" a grid charger to the pack's detriment.
 
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Thanks, Mr. Keith.
 
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Originally Posted by S Keith
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All replacement parts sold by Toyota carry the standard parts warranty, 12 month/12000 mile. Some parts may have different warranties for different situations, but they are usually longer. The hybrid batteries receive a longer warranty when installed by the dealership.
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In terms of providing proof that the battery bought from Toyota is still the same one in case Toyota needs to be approached for a warranty claim, should one request the Parts guy note the module serial numbers on the invoice? Also, I am wondering what the best way to test the battery at the Parts counter is and if the battery comes in a sealed box from Toyota with the serial number and module numbers printed somewhere on the battery? Thanks.
 

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