...don't expect congress (nor the administration) to apologize
#21
Re: ...don't expect congress (nor the administration) to apologize
Well looks like they will have a field day with this…. nice for all of the toyota owners out there their cars may actually appreciate in value a % point or 2 =)
#22
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The Prius, and others, have a serious design defect in my opinion.
Requiring a 3 second depression of the start/stop PB if/when the tranny is in gear but not otherwise is shear idiocy. The 3 second time should be a requirement at any time.
Requiring a 3 second depression of the start/stop PB if/when the tranny is in gear but not otherwise is shear idiocy. The 3 second time should be a requirement at any time.
#23
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Well I sure hope they get up off their &#$@% long enough to fix a few of these problems before the public gets turned off by the tech. It's a good stop gap while new infrastructure is built for alternative fuels………..
#24
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now can toyota apologize again to the american people, people?!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41756436/ns/business-autos
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41756436/ns/business-autos
#25
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"Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons said the company was unaware of any accidents or injuries related to the new recalls."
Is it possible to design anything that potentially through misuse couldn't become dangerous?
Is it possible to design anything that potentially through misuse couldn't become dangerous?
Last edited by lzc; 02-24-2011 at 08:10 AM.
#26
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now I get it, the congress has to say that their investigation about the toyota malfunctioning pedal was not the cause of those "accelerations." Yet, toyota recalls a lot of vehicles just to fix that problem. I see a whitewash
#27
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You've got a good sense of humor.
Company had to do something, anything, to show that they're dealing with the "problem" and Congress had to save face so they made them do something (fool's errand).
Were Ford, Honda or GM (who, similarly had thousands of UA cases reported) embarrassed like Toyota was, they'd be shaving an inch from their pedals and sending out thinner mats, too. It's the equivalent of "take two aspirins and call me in the morning" or "try rebooting your computer". It's a fake fix for a non problem, but it makes everyone feel good (including the government)
Yesterday's recall was part of an agreement by the government to finalize and end the 'case' against Toyota, requiring them throwing in a few more, similar, recalls.
For a mod, you seem to fan the flames pretty well. That's your second "gotcha" post. Trolling?
Company had to do something, anything, to show that they're dealing with the "problem" and Congress had to save face so they made them do something (fool's errand).
Were Ford, Honda or GM (who, similarly had thousands of UA cases reported) embarrassed like Toyota was, they'd be shaving an inch from their pedals and sending out thinner mats, too. It's the equivalent of "take two aspirins and call me in the morning" or "try rebooting your computer". It's a fake fix for a non problem, but it makes everyone feel good (including the government)
Yesterday's recall was part of an agreement by the government to finalize and end the 'case' against Toyota, requiring them throwing in a few more, similar, recalls.
For a mod, you seem to fan the flames pretty well. That's your second "gotcha" post. Trolling?
Last edited by haroldo; 02-25-2011 at 04:18 AM.
#28
Re: ...don't expect congress (nor the administration) to apologize
not really. just amused by all the results and the sudden turnaround.
#29
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It's not a turnaround, it was part of the negotiations.
It appears, to me, that they gave NASA, et. al. 40,000 documents and they found absolutely nothing.
So, to close the episode, NHTSA (with the blessing of the administration) gave Toyota one more kick in the butt as they signed off on this embarrassing episode. The models from this week's recall are probably similar enough to the ones from last year that they could justify it.
I doubt there's one car on the market that couldn't have a few millimeters shaved from their pedal (in the name of safety)
It appears, to me, that they gave NASA, et. al. 40,000 documents and they found absolutely nothing.
So, to close the episode, NHTSA (with the blessing of the administration) gave Toyota one more kick in the butt as they signed off on this embarrassing episode. The models from this week's recall are probably similar enough to the ones from last year that they could justify it.
I doubt there's one car on the market that couldn't have a few millimeters shaved from their pedal (in the name of safety)
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