800 mile tank!
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This is all insane!!
I find it very hard to believe that you get the kind of mileage.
I just finished a 3000 mile trip on intersate highways and 35mpg was about as good as I could get. In town I get about 33mpg. I've aired up my tires to 40 psi, changed to 0-20 oil. If I try real hard, I can get about 36 or 37 in town but to do that, I find myself driving like an old blue haired lady!
How can your milages be so much higher???
I find it very hard to believe that you get the kind of mileage.
I just finished a 3000 mile trip on intersate highways and 35mpg was about as good as I could get. In town I get about 33mpg. I've aired up my tires to 40 psi, changed to 0-20 oil. If I try real hard, I can get about 36 or 37 in town but to do that, I find myself driving like an old blue haired lady!
How can your milages be so much higher???
You nailed it... drive like an old blue haired lady and you will see the numbers quoted here. It's a bit silly to compare MPG without comparing the time and speed that it took to achive it.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I haven't actually looked, but I would guess that the top 10 cars in the mileage database are all from flat-land areas.
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I don't believe in the whole location thing as much. I live in NJ and these are far from flat lands out here. Learning to be a little bit patient and anticipating traffic plays a much bigger role in increased mpg.
I have tried different experiments on my daily commute of 43 miles to work doing about 70% freeway driving and the rest on 29% large streets (Route 1 South) and very few minor arteries (less than 1%).
These are the results:
I obtain approximately 35 mpg when I drive @ a speed of 90mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 51 minutes.
I obtain approximately 39 mpg when I drive @ 80 mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 55minutes.
However, when I drive at 60mph (actually varying my speed between 60 to 80 mph based on varying elevations) I complete the trip in 1 hour and obtain over 43mpg, sometimes as high as 49mpg.
Patience plays a bigger role.
I have tried different experiments on my daily commute of 43 miles to work doing about 70% freeway driving and the rest on 29% large streets (Route 1 South) and very few minor arteries (less than 1%).
These are the results:
I obtain approximately 35 mpg when I drive @ a speed of 90mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 51 minutes.
I obtain approximately 39 mpg when I drive @ 80 mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 55minutes.
However, when I drive at 60mph (actually varying my speed between 60 to 80 mph based on varying elevations) I complete the trip in 1 hour and obtain over 43mpg, sometimes as high as 49mpg.
Patience plays a bigger role.
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Well I will say one major difference in terms of location--winter. No way can you deny the effect on a full year's driving for having temperatures down below freezing for a few weeks, like I did this Feb. FE dropped down to around 30 mpg for my worst tank, and just a few others in the lower 30s dropped my average for a year down to 35 mpg, despite starting out upper 30s to 40-ish for most of my tanks.
I do think there's an effect of hilly vs flat, but without some serious and exacting study I don't think it's easy to define. And I'm sure it varies a lot by driving style. Up hills is always going to suck more gas than you want, and I'm not sure the downhill coasting compensates for it, so I'd tend to think flat will get better results--but then again my recent mileage, my current tank averaging about 46 mpg nominally (2 commutes to/from work so far) is including at least one fairly major though gradual hill (actually a little hilly stretch that kind of peaks then comes back down), and with a little careful driving it's still possible to keep it in EV mode for a decent chunk and minimize gas. Or I wouldn't be seeing 45+ mpg overall. Both directions.
I do think there's an effect of hilly vs flat, but without some serious and exacting study I don't think it's easy to define. And I'm sure it varies a lot by driving style. Up hills is always going to suck more gas than you want, and I'm not sure the downhill coasting compensates for it, so I'd tend to think flat will get better results--but then again my recent mileage, my current tank averaging about 46 mpg nominally (2 commutes to/from work so far) is including at least one fairly major though gradual hill (actually a little hilly stretch that kind of peaks then comes back down), and with a little careful driving it's still possible to keep it in EV mode for a decent chunk and minimize gas. Or I wouldn't be seeing 45+ mpg overall. Both directions.
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I don't believe in the whole location thing as much. I live in NJ and these are far from flat lands out here. Learning to be a little bit patient and anticipating traffic plays a much bigger role in increased mpg.
I have tried different experiments on my daily commute of 43 miles to work doing about 70% freeway driving and the rest on 29% large streets (Route 1 South) and very few minor arteries (less than 1%).
These are the results:
I obtain approximately 35 mpg when I drive @ a speed of 90mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 51 minutes.
I obtain approximately 39 mpg when I drive @ 80 mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 55minutes.
However, when I drive at 60mph (actually varying my speed between 60 to 80 mph based on varying elevations) I complete the trip in 1 hour and obtain over 43mpg, sometimes as high as 49mpg.
Patience plays a bigger role.
I have tried different experiments on my daily commute of 43 miles to work doing about 70% freeway driving and the rest on 29% large streets (Route 1 South) and very few minor arteries (less than 1%).
These are the results:
I obtain approximately 35 mpg when I drive @ a speed of 90mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 51 minutes.
I obtain approximately 39 mpg when I drive @ 80 mph on the freeway and complete the trip in 55minutes.
However, when I drive at 60mph (actually varying my speed between 60 to 80 mph based on varying elevations) I complete the trip in 1 hour and obtain over 43mpg, sometimes as high as 49mpg.
Patience plays a bigger role.
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Once off of the mountain my drive is a series of undulating small hills. Here I try to maintain the heretical mode as much as possible by anticipating the demands for power or for reductions in power with very small accelerator changes, and also I accept small speed changes so long as they are consistent with traffic. This usually means keeping a slightly greater following distance to permit the speed fluctuations, which is safer anyway.
I do have the advantage of rarely requiring AC and of generally cool temperatures of 60-80 in the summer months, and 35-45 in the winter.
Last edited by FastMover; 07-05-2007 at 11:20 AM.