Time: Pain at the Pump
#41
Re: Time: Pain at the Pump
Jessica,
I would like to thank you for a well stated point that not to many people know about. The profit margins in the oil business have never been great compared with other industries. They were AWFUL (negative? I can't remember) in the late 90's when oil was $10/barrel. Nobody was ranting and raving at that time about giving them a bunch of government money to subsidize their businesses. These companies made MAJOR investments in infrastructure and capacity - so more power to them to be able to make some money! The proposed windfall tax profit may be the dumbest thing I have heard come out of a capitalist country in a long time. As long as they are not colluding or fixing prices then they probably aren't doing anything wrong (at least compared to other industries that have a relatively few strong players).
We as Americans are not taking responsiblity for our actions on both a personal and national level - It's about darn time that we start.
Eric
I would like to thank you for a well stated point that not to many people know about. The profit margins in the oil business have never been great compared with other industries. They were AWFUL (negative? I can't remember) in the late 90's when oil was $10/barrel. Nobody was ranting and raving at that time about giving them a bunch of government money to subsidize their businesses. These companies made MAJOR investments in infrastructure and capacity - so more power to them to be able to make some money! The proposed windfall tax profit may be the dumbest thing I have heard come out of a capitalist country in a long time. As long as they are not colluding or fixing prices then they probably aren't doing anything wrong (at least compared to other industries that have a relatively few strong players).
We as Americans are not taking responsiblity for our actions on both a personal and national level - It's about darn time that we start.
Eric
#42
Re: Time: Pain at the Pump
Did anyone watch the News Hour two nights ago on PBS? The CEO of ConocoPhilips was discussing fuel prices. He said that for $3/gal gasoline, ConocoPhilips makes $0.10. That's not much.
#43
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Originally Posted by Sledge
Did anyone watch the News Hour two nights ago on PBS? The CEO of ConocoPhilips was discussing fuel prices. He said that for $3/gal gasoline, ConocoPhilips makes $0.10. That's not much.
Jessica
#44
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I'm in the Microbrewed Beer industry now, and can't readily give profit margin numbers, but every extra cent goes into expansion purchases to increase capacity as we have grown at a 40%+ clip for the last 4 years. Next week I get to begin installing a brand new bottling line.
My past industry was meatpacking. Meatpackers profit margin averages 0.6%. This is highly sensitive to cattle prices. High cattle prices means ranchers and feedlots profit while meat packers lose. Low prices, ranchers lose, and meatpackers make less than a penny on the dollar.
If you've seen the contoversy over Horse Slaughter in the US for export to France and Belgium, I can say I've been there. The meat packer I worked for purchased a Cow/Bull/Horse kill in either Sealy or Palestine Texas (10 years ago can't remember which), and quickly ended the Horse kill operation. I saw the last 2 days of horse Kill before they shut it down. Didn't want to risk people thinking there was horse in their burger.
Pork industry is even lower, we had 6 pork plants and only 1 of the 6 made a profit in the 11 years I worked there. Part of a long term strategy to drive other pork packers out of business.
My past industry was meatpacking. Meatpackers profit margin averages 0.6%. This is highly sensitive to cattle prices. High cattle prices means ranchers and feedlots profit while meat packers lose. Low prices, ranchers lose, and meatpackers make less than a penny on the dollar.
If you've seen the contoversy over Horse Slaughter in the US for export to France and Belgium, I can say I've been there. The meat packer I worked for purchased a Cow/Bull/Horse kill in either Sealy or Palestine Texas (10 years ago can't remember which), and quickly ended the Horse kill operation. I saw the last 2 days of horse Kill before they shut it down. Didn't want to risk people thinking there was horse in their burger.
Pork industry is even lower, we had 6 pork plants and only 1 of the 6 made a profit in the 11 years I worked there. Part of a long term strategy to drive other pork packers out of business.
#45
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Originally Posted by ralph_dog
I guess what GM and the other US automakers are shooting for is to produce only one or two vehicles per year. They will get 1,000 gal/mile and be a very large SUV/Hybrid type of vehicle that costs about $5-10 billion each...probably a large earth moving type of application.
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