More hybrid skeptics
#21
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- Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec 6 cyl, 3 L, Automatic 7-spd, Diesel
- Mercedes-Benz ML320 CDI 4matic 6 cyl, 3 L, Automatic 7-spd, Diesel
- Mercedes-Benz R320 CDI 4matic 6 cyl, 3 L, Automatic 7-spd, Diesel
- Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI 4matic 6 cyl, 3 L, Automatic 7-spd, Diesel
- Jeep Grand Cherokee 2WD 6 cyl, 3 L, Automatic 5-spd, Diesel
- Volkswagen Touareg 10 cyl, 5 L, Automatic (S6), Diesel
Check out the Jeep, which according to the EPA, has no turbo charger.
Last edited by rrrrrroger; 02-18-2008 at 05:46 AM.
#22
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My insight hasn't even set foot inside a city. Not once.
It's urban mileage is irrelevant for this driver.
There needs to be a balance when presenting information, because some stats simply do not apply to all people. BTW, 70mpg is the Lupo's combined MPG. When it was still available, it was listed as 88mpg highway (higher than any other car) and 62mpg city (about the same as an insight) on the official volkswagen.de website. Wrong Car. The Lupo 3L/70mpg car has a 1.2 liter engine, not 1.4.
Last edited by rrrrrroger; 02-18-2008 at 05:50 AM.
#23
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Here you go: Link: http://transtech.anl.gov/v3n3/greet.html - One of the cars listed is:
ICE HEV LSD - intenal combustion engine - hybrid - low-sulfur diesel
which uses less energy than a gasoline hybrid. As you'd expect. A diesel engine runs at close to 60% efficiency while a gasoline engine peaks at ~45%. Thus the diesel hybrid not only pulls more work out of each BTU of energy, but also has the benefit of a EV mode for city driving. It is the best of both worlds:
- an EV mode for city driving (like a prius)
- a diesel mode for highway (very efficient -same mode used by long distance trains & trucks)
ICE HEV LSD - intenal combustion engine - hybrid - low-sulfur diesel
which uses less energy than a gasoline hybrid. As you'd expect. A diesel engine runs at close to 60% efficiency while a gasoline engine peaks at ~45%. Thus the diesel hybrid not only pulls more work out of each BTU of energy, but also has the benefit of a EV mode for city driving. It is the best of both worlds:
- an EV mode for city driving (like a prius)
- a diesel mode for highway (very efficient -same mode used by long distance trains & trucks)
Last edited by rrrrrroger; 02-18-2008 at 05:55 AM.
#24
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Cheers;
MSantos
#25
Re: More hybrid skeptics
Here you go: Link: http://transtech.anl.gov/v3n3/greet.html - One of the cars listed is:
ICE HEV LSD - intenal combustion engine - hybrid - low-sulfur diesel
ICE HEV LSD - intenal combustion engine - hybrid - low-sulfur diesel
. . . which uses less energy than a gasoline hybrid. As you'd expect. A diesel engine runs at close to 60% efficiency while a gasoline engine peaks at ~45%. Thus the diesel hybrid not only pulls more work out of each BTU of energy, but also has the benefit of a EV mode for city driving. It is the best of both worlds:
- an EV mode for city driving (like a prius)
- a diesel mode for highway (very efficient -same mode used by long distance trains & trucks)
- an EV mode for city driving (like a prius)
- a diesel mode for highway (very efficient -same mode used by long distance trains & trucks)
BTW, I was looking for something else and came across John's guidelines for dealing with hybrid skeptics:
http://john1701a.com/
Mac users can use the "CNTL" key to download some of his links that call for a 'right-click' operation.
Bob Wilson
Last edited by bwilson4web; 02-18-2008 at 08:38 AM.
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