CNN says Hybrids will pay for themselves!
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Originally Posted by lakedude
In addition to the Elantra advantages I've already mentioned the Elantra rides smoother and has less rattles going over bumps, plus it has better on center tracking making it easier to drive on the highway.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Kite
Maybe your Civic is rougher because you got the tires pumped up to 50+ PSI and you will not even think of slowing down for a bump in it. I know I hate to slow down for bumps.
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Lakedude,
I was a bit unclear.I meant that maybe the hybrids will be known as transmission eaters 8 years from now.The Prius and the HCH both have "newish" type transmissions/PSD/CVT.If those trans start punting at 100,000 miles or so , they won't do well on the resale market. On rereading, the only hint that I meant the hybrids is the "give them away."
I did casually mention the interest" the $ made on the $8000."
Hyundai has made huge strides in QC;they do well in surveys now.I have eyeballed them because they are a very good deal. I was aware of the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty; it is in place because of the poor QC Hyundai had when they 1st came on the scene in the USA.
I'm guessing it would be close $$ wise. Of course, I bought with the $3150 in mind; I probably wouldn't have bought a Prius if I actually had to pay the full $26000(OTD).At $22850-OTD (after TC ) it was a "good deal" since that is roughly what a"loaded" Matrix costs(OTD). I wouldn't have paid $26000 for the Prius-despite my numbers. The TC has sold lots of Prius& HCH 2; no matter what members say, many folks bought because of the $3150($2500). Thanks.Charlie
I was a bit unclear.I meant that maybe the hybrids will be known as transmission eaters 8 years from now.The Prius and the HCH both have "newish" type transmissions/PSD/CVT.If those trans start punting at 100,000 miles or so , they won't do well on the resale market. On rereading, the only hint that I meant the hybrids is the "give them away."
I did casually mention the interest" the $ made on the $8000."
Hyundai has made huge strides in QC;they do well in surveys now.I have eyeballed them because they are a very good deal. I was aware of the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty; it is in place because of the poor QC Hyundai had when they 1st came on the scene in the USA.
I'm guessing it would be close $$ wise. Of course, I bought with the $3150 in mind; I probably wouldn't have bought a Prius if I actually had to pay the full $26000(OTD).At $22850-OTD (after TC ) it was a "good deal" since that is roughly what a"loaded" Matrix costs(OTD). I wouldn't have paid $26000 for the Prius-despite my numbers. The TC has sold lots of Prius& HCH 2; no matter what members say, many folks bought because of the $3150($2500). Thanks.Charlie
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Originally Posted by Tim
Hybrid or not, the "success" of ANY car purchase can only be measured against the criteria of the buyer. No other opinon matters. If it's worth it to the buyer, then it's a good decision - end of discussion. My Civic does save me money, when compared to the other cars I was considering buying, and the one I was currently driving. It's not fair to criticize a hybrid because it's so much more expensive than a $9K Kia. On an absolute scale like that, any car over $15K becomes an unnecessary toy, hybrid or not.
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I certainly agree that the buyer is the ultimate judge of value.
However you all are dead wrong that you can't compare cars unles they are exactly the same except perhaps a single feature. You can compare any 2 cars and you can even compare to a bicycle if you choose to do so. One guy I work with lives next to a store and 1.2 miles from work. He could easily walk to the store and ride a bike or scooter to work, weather permitting. Bikes and scooters are cheap enough you could have a car AND a bike or scooter. Of course he does not walk or ride a bike because the would be unamerican.
However you all are dead wrong that you can't compare cars unles they are exactly the same except perhaps a single feature. You can compare any 2 cars and you can even compare to a bicycle if you choose to do so. One guy I work with lives next to a store and 1.2 miles from work. He could easily walk to the store and ride a bike or scooter to work, weather permitting. Bikes and scooters are cheap enough you could have a car AND a bike or scooter. Of course he does not walk or ride a bike because the would be unamerican.
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Originally Posted by lakedude
I. . .However you all are dead wrong that you can't compare cars unless they are exactly the same except perhaps a single feature. . . .
Bob Wilson
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I'm one of the few people who is actually saving money by purchasing my HCH, though that will go away in a few months when I change jobs. Right now, I'm working as a courier, so I'm driving about 200-250 miles a day. I was driving a Nissan Sentra SE (great car, btw), and getting 27MPG mixed city/highway on my daily drives. After trading it in, the Civic has a $50 higher payment, $20 higher in insurance....but I'm saving nearly $200 in gas each month, giving me a net savings of $130 a month while I still have this job. The savings would be larger, but gas has recently plummeted in Columbus from $3.15/gal to $2.29/gal, so it's not quite as much, but it still more than makes up for the payment and insurance increase.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.
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Originally Posted by JordanCS
I'm one of the few people who is actually saving money by purchasing my HCH, though that will go away in a few months when I change jobs. Right now, I'm working as a courier, so I'm driving about 200-250 miles a day. I was driving a Nissan Sentra SE (great car, btw), and getting 27MPG mixed city/highway on my daily drives. After trading it in, the Civic has a $50 higher payment, $20 higher in insurance....but I'm saving nearly $200 in gas each month, giving me a net savings of $130 a month while I still have this job. The savings would be larger, but gas has recently plummeted in Columbus from $3.15/gal to $2.29/gal, so it's not quite as much, but it still more than makes up for the payment and insurance increase.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.
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Originally Posted by JordanCS
I'm one of the few people who is actually saving money by purchasing my HCH, though that will go away in a few months when I change jobs. Right now, I'm working as a courier, so I'm driving about 200-250 miles a day. I was driving a Nissan Sentra SE (great car, btw), and getting 27MPG mixed city/highway on my daily drives. After trading it in, the Civic has a $50 higher payment, $20 higher in insurance....but I'm saving nearly $200 in gas each month, giving me a net savings of $130 a month while I still have this job. The savings would be larger, but gas has recently plummeted in Columbus from $3.15/gal to $2.29/gal, so it's not quite as much, but it still more than makes up for the payment and insurance increase.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.
When I change jobs and don't drive as much, that benefit goes away, but I won't really care since I will be making a lot more money, so I'm not too concerned about it.