One day I will realize? As I said before, I got the car I wanted for the price I wanted. I also got them to pony up $3200 more for my trade than they wanted to. My principles tell me not to role over and walk away over $600 to $1000. They tell me to stay in the ring and keep fighting. It took 9 full days of negotiating but I got what I wanted.

The fact of the matter is that even if you did spend an extra $600 (principle aside), the savings in gas alone would repay that in a couple of months and then keep on saving.

I am not going to get into a debate with you over how to accumulate wealth or over who has the biggest e-wallet. The fact of the matter is that you are not going to get an HCH II. We have all been made aware of that.

Once upon a time, I was about to buy a Lotus Elise. The deal fell through. Same situation as you are going through but add a zero to the figure you are upset over. My principles told me 2 things.

1. Don't bend over for the car.
2. Don't go back to the Lotus Elise forum I had started taking part in to cry about not getting the car I want to those who love them.

 

Thanks for sharing and thanks for plugging your own business as well. Your principles appear quite clear.

 

Plugging my business??? How is it a business when everything I do is for free so someone else can make money.

If my signature offends, I can remove it. I simply am promoting something I like enough to volunteer my time for.

 

There, all better, now we can play nice again.

PS. If you want your sig to work...

Copy the entire text and insert it in between these 2 tags

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I wondered about this. I noticed on Honda's website that the listed MSRP was higher than I remembered paying back in November. I didn't know manuf. could change MSRP mid-year? I've been dissapointed with the smoke and mirrors that both Honda and Toyota have used with people waiting to purchase Priuses and Civic Hybrids.

When there is a little extra demand for something, dealers loose their minds. I have had good experiences however. Sounds like many of the issues are in California where demand is much higher.

 

Supply and demand.
Capitalism at its best.

Don't take it personally.
The world is as ugly or as beautiful as you make it out to be.

 

Well I suppose I can drive into the nearby Honda place and look at a current sticker myself. However, the Honda website is 300 dollars higher than the sticker on my car ( base price real sticker) and the website went up 300 to get there. I was told 3/16/2006 manufacturer date was the changeover. So mine was 21850 base price and the new ones are supposedly stickered at 300 higher. With the destination this is like going from 22,400 to 22 700 I suppose. Which is exactly, from the posts here, what happened. Check me on this.

 

This is just a run of the mill dealer rip off on a hot car; pretty typical. The only variation is the written "deal" which dealers can always weasel on.
I would wait til things calm down a bit, and them go out of state. When does this "lane sticker" deal end? After that, and the driving season, the HCH will drop in price even in CA. Luck,Charlie
PS Dealers being what they are, it is always better to not show too much interest. If you front them $$, then it gives them the impression you are desperate.They smell blood(more money). There are a fair number of straight dealers, but there are plenty of chiselers also. Wait this one out-you can always get a great price on a Tacoma. They will have incentives soon.

 

I came late to the party so I can't say what it was in the past, but when I started looking in early April it was listed at $23,650 for Navi and $22,150 without. (plus destination, license, tax, etc.) That was the MSRP I paid ($23,650 with Navi) on April 28, here in California. Almost all the dealers in the SF Bay area were adding $2000-$3000 mark up. I simple put my request out through the internet to "internet sales" people at dealerships within 75 miles with the note that I was ONLY interested if there was no mark-up.

I got a couple of calls with dealers that obviously can't read or decided that they could convince me to pay a mark-up. It didn't work. After about a week I got a call from a dealer that said they had just received their allocation notice and that for a $300 deposit I could have the Galaxy Gray that was being built on June 10 and would arrive around the first week of July with no mark-up. Verifying that the paperwork stated that it was fully refundable if I changed my mind for any reason, I forked over $300.

2 Days later another dealer called me and told me that they had a Galaxy Gray on the lot and that they would sell it to me at MSRP. I went there, made the deal and drove home in my new HCH2006. I called the first dealer who had my deposit and he said "Congrats!" and refuded my money with a smile.

So...sometimes it does work out even in crazy California.

DAn

 

Making such predictions is as good as making predictions about the stock market, in other words, not very good at all.

Apart from the HOV stickers which will probably run out in August, there is the price of gasoline and the tax credit. Will gas prices go up or down? That will affect demand for the HCH. The tax credit for the Prius may be cut in half by October 1, which will leave the HCH with a higher credit than the Prius. That may cause demand for the HCH to increase.