Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
#12
Re: Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
5th gear trick- 42mph is well-known. 5th will stick until you drop to <35 or so.
As you know, I've tried FAS on numerous occasions- it does work wonders, but as you point out one must almost be a jedi master to get it right with the Accord tranny. One with the force like that, not am I. Patience of that magnitude, I have not. So I stick with buffers and DWB for the most part. Or use the Exploder for town trips, with the excuse that 'I prefer your Sirius to my XM.' Works so far.
Those who are sitting in the low 20s now- see what happens come May, with summer fuel and shorter/less severe warmup times. You'll see ~20% improvement...22 becomes 26.5- a very respectable number.
As you know, I've tried FAS on numerous occasions- it does work wonders, but as you point out one must almost be a jedi master to get it right with the Accord tranny. One with the force like that, not am I. Patience of that magnitude, I have not. So I stick with buffers and DWB for the most part. Or use the Exploder for town trips, with the excuse that 'I prefer your Sirius to my XM.' Works so far.
Those who are sitting in the low 20s now- see what happens come May, with summer fuel and shorter/less severe warmup times. You'll see ~20% improvement...22 becomes 26.5- a very respectable number.
#13
Re: Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
All,
Just wanted to thank you all for the info. Also wanted to let you know that we seem to have reached the "break-in" point; we're now getting 30 mpg on the stop-n-go commute & ~ 33 in "normal" hwy driving. For the most part.
One thing we've still noticed, though, is inconsistency in the ECO & AUTO STOP modes. Sometimes they work well, sometimes not. Initially, I thought it could just be the weather, until they worked fine in 40 deg temps, then not so well the next day when it was actually 60 deg. Anyone else have this issue?
Just wanted to thank you all for the info. Also wanted to let you know that we seem to have reached the "break-in" point; we're now getting 30 mpg on the stop-n-go commute & ~ 33 in "normal" hwy driving. For the most part.
One thing we've still noticed, though, is inconsistency in the ECO & AUTO STOP modes. Sometimes they work well, sometimes not. Initially, I thought it could just be the weather, until they worked fine in 40 deg temps, then not so well the next day when it was actually 60 deg. Anyone else have this issue?
#14
Re: Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
battery state, if the defroster/AC are on (AC always on when defrost is on), whether the catalytic converter is up to temp, all go in to whether autostop engages or not. If you start/stop several times (3?) in 10 sec or so it will disengage as well.
#15
Re: Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
I drove a new one about 160 miles mostly on interstate today at 70-80 mph and it said on meter that I got 33.3 mpg. Not really good as the same car with a 4 cyl and $6k les gets that good.
#16
Re: Problems with 2005 HAH MPG???
and the point? The lackluster FE of a new HAH, particularly driven so fast, probably accelerated hard, too, is nothing new.
At 80mph the ECO light is not on- the engine cannot push the vehicle that fast and get over 30mpg and/or work on 3 cylinders. ECO is on only when FE is over 28 or 30mpg (exact # escapes me now). No ECO = mpg under 30.
At 80mph the ECO light is not on- the engine cannot push the vehicle that fast and get over 30mpg and/or work on 3 cylinders. ECO is on only when FE is over 28 or 30mpg (exact # escapes me now). No ECO = mpg under 30.
#17
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OK, I've noticed this:
The EPA 37mpg is accurate, I drive in Maryland around the Baltimore Beltway, the traffic ranges from really bad to pretty good depending on the weather (sun-glare is the worst days). I've been resetting the display as soon as I enter the highway and have gotten from 34 to 41mpg on strictly highway driving.
The problem, as others have pointed out, is that off the highway the engine is pretty much on its own, the electric motor does next to nothing for fuel eonoly, the "eco" mode does most of the fuel saving. The motor restarts the car from autostop and kicks in at very slight acceleration, and hard accelerations to "assist" the motor. Driving around Columbia, MD which I do not consider city, I get around 23mpg, 6 lower than the repoted 29mpg. If I drove in Baltimore city? I shudder to think how bad the MPG would be, but it can't be much worse than the standard Accord V6.
I have also noticed the inconsistencies of the autostop. Works on a cold (30 degrees) morning after a few miles. Then on the way home after getting off of the highway I had been on for 30 minutes, battery at 4 bars, engine - warm, defrost - off, seat warmers - off, rear window defrost - off, stopped at light -- engine - ON! All of the things were on during the morning commute. So I asked my dealer for help -- nothing useful, it's not their fault, it's Honda's.
I also contacted Honda about the poor mileage, they said until they receive more complaints, they won't do a thing. And for the record I drive very carefully, trying to squeeze ever .1mpg I can out of this car. I bought it knowing I would have to drive more carefully, and I have.
I used to drive a V6 Mustang on the exact same route, I got 23.5mpg consistantly. Which was acceptable for a car whose mileage was 20 to 29mpg. I expected to average 32 to 33 in the HAH which would be in about the same range. I average 27 to 29mpg in my HAH, I'm not even in the range, on tha exact same commute
So, if you've got a HAH, and you mileage is not what it was supposed be and you do everything possible to keep that green light on (driving like your 95 years old), and you're fed up with the hype, TELL HONDA! (800) 999-1009 tell 'em Rob sent ya
The EPA 37mpg is accurate, I drive in Maryland around the Baltimore Beltway, the traffic ranges from really bad to pretty good depending on the weather (sun-glare is the worst days). I've been resetting the display as soon as I enter the highway and have gotten from 34 to 41mpg on strictly highway driving.
The problem, as others have pointed out, is that off the highway the engine is pretty much on its own, the electric motor does next to nothing for fuel eonoly, the "eco" mode does most of the fuel saving. The motor restarts the car from autostop and kicks in at very slight acceleration, and hard accelerations to "assist" the motor. Driving around Columbia, MD which I do not consider city, I get around 23mpg, 6 lower than the repoted 29mpg. If I drove in Baltimore city? I shudder to think how bad the MPG would be, but it can't be much worse than the standard Accord V6.
I have also noticed the inconsistencies of the autostop. Works on a cold (30 degrees) morning after a few miles. Then on the way home after getting off of the highway I had been on for 30 minutes, battery at 4 bars, engine - warm, defrost - off, seat warmers - off, rear window defrost - off, stopped at light -- engine - ON! All of the things were on during the morning commute. So I asked my dealer for help -- nothing useful, it's not their fault, it's Honda's.
I also contacted Honda about the poor mileage, they said until they receive more complaints, they won't do a thing. And for the record I drive very carefully, trying to squeeze ever .1mpg I can out of this car. I bought it knowing I would have to drive more carefully, and I have.
I used to drive a V6 Mustang on the exact same route, I got 23.5mpg consistantly. Which was acceptable for a car whose mileage was 20 to 29mpg. I expected to average 32 to 33 in the HAH which would be in about the same range. I average 27 to 29mpg in my HAH, I'm not even in the range, on tha exact same commute
So, if you've got a HAH, and you mileage is not what it was supposed be and you do everything possible to keep that green light on (driving like your 95 years old), and you're fed up with the hype, TELL HONDA! (800) 999-1009 tell 'em Rob sent ya
Last edited by Decipticar; 03-20-2006 at 07:53 PM.
#18
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Originally Posted by Decipticar
I also contacted Honda about the poor mileage, they said until they receive more complaints, they won't do a thing...
...So, if you've got a HAH, and you mileage is not what it was supposed be and you do everything possible to keep that green light on (driving like your 95 years old), and you're fed up with the hype, TELL HONDA! (800) 999-1009 tell 'em Rob sent ya
...So, if you've got a HAH, and you mileage is not what it was supposed be and you do everything possible to keep that green light on (driving like your 95 years old), and you're fed up with the hype, TELL HONDA! (800) 999-1009 tell 'em Rob sent ya
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#19
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Originally Posted by gonavy
ECO is on only when FE is over 28 or 30mpg (exact # escapes me now). No ECO = mpg under 30.
#20
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Originally Posted by bar10dah
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that ECO is on when the car is getting over 25 mpg. Which I don't know is entirely true since I've seen my FCD over 30 mpg and the ECO light didn't come on.