Will do.

 

navguy12

is there any way to check on another used car i intend to purchase the amount of battery degradation? Like on your screenshot it says 19% - is there anyway of getting this figure?

I have scangauge but i dont think that will give me this information.

thanks

 

This info is only available on the actual Honda proprietary software/laptop/DTC. It is the unit that was plugged into the OBD II socket whilst we went for our "show and tell" test drive.

My dealer, a totally honorable fellow, had no issue showing me that info and letting me record it "for the record"......

 

Update: new battery being installed on the 24th.

....and I've found an '08 Prius that will replace it later this month......

 

Did you get a good deal as a trade-in or separately selling/buying?
I've been pondering the same path for a 2011 Prius or maybe a plugin if I can gather enough dough

 

Its the old story, what may seem a good deal to one person is different from another. The car will be traded in and the dealer has already pre-sold it wholesale. I got about $500 more than expected on trade...

For me (and my wife), the issue is the hatch-back and fold down seats. If the Civic had fold down rear seats, I'd keep it.......

 

Here is a trick question- has your mileage returned to normal post battery replacement? Just so I know if it's even worth arguing with them over a new battery

 

Battery swap occurring tomorrow and car being traded in for '08 Prius later this week.

The current battery is so dead (but STILL no IMA light !) that I am not even getting stop/start when historically I have in the past (and it is a balmy 5C here today instead of normal -8C). All I get is 3 bars of assist max.....

I suspect that the dumbed down software "update" will protect the new battery for many years, but it will come at a fuel economy cost. I would argue for the new battery. I couldn't in good conscience trade in a car with a known dead IMA battery, even with 'warranty' still on it.....

Ultimately (with the software update) it is no longer the car I test drove in 2007, bought in good faith and enjoyed for 4.5 years, nor is it the car the US EPA dyno tested in 2007.....

 

Had 3 re-cals on the drive from home to Cobourg to get the new battery. Due to headwinds, kept it at 90 kph on the 401.

I had the rear seat pre-removed as well as all but one of the torx fasteners on the protective metal sheet that hides the actual battery pack.

The team at Cobourg Honda did a great job . The paper-work had not even shown up yet, just a factory fresh battery in a re-usable container (much like aircraft parts are shipped in).

2 hours later I had my car back and the drive home (90 kph, secondary roads, wind at back) was 4.3L/100 km for a 65 km trip.

Night and day between outbound and inbound trip. I was getting e-glide when I was supposed to, etc.

Anyhow, if/when I shop for another Honda product, it will be at Cobourg Honda.

Spent the rest of the day pulling out the non-stock removable items out of the Civic in prep for trading it for my '08 Prius (tomorrow).

Cheers

Mike

 

I'm trading the Civic in tomorrow and have closed out my cost sheets for this car. Here are the executive summary extracts:
TOTALS % of Total $/km
Insurance $5,138.00 12.42% $ 0.0458
Fuel $5,311.11 12.84% $ 0.0473
Repairs $ 107.12 0.26% $ 0.0010
Cleaning $ 146.71 0.35% $ 0.0013
Reg maint $1,308.22 3.16% $ 0.0117
Plates $ 370.00 0.89% $ 0.0033
Misc $ 128.84 0.31% $ 0.0011
Finance $2,225.62 5.38% $ 0.0198
Purchase $26,634.53 64.38% $ 0.2372
Grand Total $41,370.15 100% $0.3685 (as a point of interest, this cost per km is cheaper than the $0.3985 (non-adjusted for inflation) it cost me to run a 1999 Hyundai Tiburon for four years)

Fuel Summary
Total Litres 5450.773
Average Cost $0.974
L/100kms 4.855
Imperial MPG 58.187

Mileage Summary
At purchase 23.0
Total driven 112276.7
Total Kms 112299.7

Greatest single trip 1017.1 km
Average trip length 637.9 km

Winter average (any tank = or worse than 5.0L/100km) 5.32L/100 km
Summer average (any tank better than 5.0L/100 km) 4.65L/100 km

I had the high tire pressures
Wind blocker for winter
Used A/C less than 10% of the time
Stored in a garage that never goes below 10C
Drove the legal limits
Employed mild hyper-miler techniques.

Cheers

Mike