Greener Car Primer Part 1
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This document is a result of my research for those of us new to learning about vehicles that produce less 'bad' emissions and get 'better' mileage. Please help out by commenting on errors and omissions. You have my permission to reproduce all or portions.
Mike
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Comparison of Greener Vehicles
Most Information Obtained From:
http://epa.gov/greenvehicles
**Prices quoted on 2001-2005 Models are <50,000 miles from Kelley Blue Book Listings for the last 7 days. New regional MSPRs are not quoted because of the wide range of premium market-ups.
2005 FORD Escape HEV 2.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 36/Highway MPG 31)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price: $30K
Air Pollution Score - 7 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.04) NMOG (0.070) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.011)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (0.55-0.64)
2005 FORD Escape HEV 2.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 4WD
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 33/Highway MPG 29)
Sales Area - California
Price: $30K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (0.55-0.64)
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2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 61/Highway MPG 66)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 61/Highway MPG 66)
Sales Area - California
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Auto 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 57/Highway MPG 56)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Air Pollution Score - 6 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.07) NMOG (0.090) CO (4.2) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Auto 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 57/Highway MPG 56)
Sales Area - California
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2004-2005 (W/Manual) Price: $19,300
2004-2005 (W/CVT) Price: $21,530
2003 Price: $14K-18K
2002 Price: $12K-17K
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2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 48/Highway MPG 47)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 48/Highway MPG 47)
Sales Area - California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 45/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 47/Highway MPG 48)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
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2004-2005 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 60/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price (2005): $22K-31K
Price (2004): $21K-33K
Air Pollution Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.055) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.011)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2004-2005 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 60/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - California
Price (2005): $22K-31K
Price (2004): $21K-33K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2001-2003 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 52/Highway MPG 45)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price: $15K-23K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2001-2003 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 52/Highway MPG 45)
Sales Area - California
Price: $15K-23K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
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2005 Toyota Lexus 440h HEV
No Data
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2005 Toyota Highlander HEV
No Data
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Other 'Green' Cars:
2004 Honda FCX Fuel Cell ZEV (Very Rare)
2004 Toyota Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle ZEV (Very Rare)
2004 Toyota RAV4 EV ZEV (Rare)
2003 Dynasty Electric Car Corp IT Sedan ZEV (Rare)
2003 Phoeniz Motorcars, Inc Phonex 1 ZEV (Rare)
Mike
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Comparison of Greener Vehicles
Most Information Obtained From:
http://epa.gov/greenvehicles
**Prices quoted on 2001-2005 Models are <50,000 miles from Kelley Blue Book Listings for the last 7 days. New regional MSPRs are not quoted because of the wide range of premium market-ups.
2005 FORD Escape HEV 2.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 36/Highway MPG 31)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price: $30K
Air Pollution Score - 7 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.04) NMOG (0.070) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.011)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (0.55-0.64)
2005 FORD Escape HEV 2.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 4WD
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 33/Highway MPG 29)
Sales Area - California
Price: $30K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (0.55-0.64)
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2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 61/Highway MPG 66)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 61/Highway MPG 66)
Sales Area - California
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Auto 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 57/Highway MPG 56)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Air Pollution Score - 6 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.07) NMOG (0.090) CO (4.2) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Insight 1L (3 cyl) Auto 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 57/Highway MPG 56)
Sales Area - California
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2004-2005 (W/Manual) Price: $19,300
2004-2005 (W/CVT) Price: $21,530
2003 Price: $14K-18K
2002 Price: $12K-17K
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2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 48/Highway MPG 47)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.180) CO (4.2) PM (0.06) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 48/Highway MPG 47)
Sales Area - California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 45/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 47/Highway MPG 48)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
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2004-2005 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 60/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price (2005): $22K-31K
Price (2004): $21K-33K
Air Pollution Score - 8 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.03) NMOG (0.055) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.011)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2004-2005 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD SULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 60/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - California
Price (2005): $22K-31K
Price (2004): $21K-33K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2001-2003 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 52/Highway MPG 45)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price: $15K-23K
Air Pollution Score - 3 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.156) CO (4.2) PM (0.02) HCHO (0.018)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
2001-2003 Toyota Prius 1.5L (4 cyl) Auto-AV 2WD ULEV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 52/Highway MPG 45)
Sales Area - California
Price: $15K-23K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Emissions Limits at Full Useful Life (100,000-120,000 miles)
Maximum Allowed Grams per Mile:
NOx (0.02) NMOG (0.010) CO (2.1) PM (0.01) HCHO (0.004)
Greenhouse Gas (CO2) Score - 10 (With 10 Being Best)
Lbs. CO2 per Mile (Less Than 0.45)
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2005 Toyota Lexus 440h HEV
No Data
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2005 Toyota Highlander HEV
No Data
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Other 'Green' Cars:
2004 Honda FCX Fuel Cell ZEV (Very Rare)
2004 Toyota Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle ZEV (Very Rare)
2004 Toyota RAV4 EV ZEV (Rare)
2003 Dynasty Electric Car Corp IT Sedan ZEV (Rare)
2003 Phoeniz Motorcars, Inc Phonex 1 ZEV (Rare)
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What is the difference between these two cars?
and
They seem to both be 2005 HCHs with manual trannys but one gets a "2" and the other gets a "9"?????
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
Md. 5HNXV01.33A6
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 46/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA Except California
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 2 (With 10 Being Best)
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3L (4 cyl) Man-5 2WD ULEV
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 45/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
Md. 5HNXV01.3YCV
Fuel Economy: (City MPG 45/Highway MPG 51)
Sales Area - All of USA
Price $20K
Air Pollution Score - 9 (With 10 Being Best)
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lakedude, and sdcatcher,
I did some searching on the different smog scores on HCHs prior to buying ours and discovered there are 2 engine versions: the ...3YCV and the ....33A6 (which a honda site referred to as the "lean burn" engine).
the 3YCV has the better smog score and is sold in ca & ny. it's also a AT-PZEV not ULEV, which I think is a lower level of emissions too.
When I asked my dealer "which engine does it have" he told me "the 1.3L" and I said "yes, but which one?" and he thought I was nuts. dealer didn't know anything about different versions. the only way I've been able to discover which engine a particular car has is look under the hood at the emission sticker; about half way down you'll see the engine type in the middle of a string of numbers. (I've got a 3YCV)
I am very curious about distribution of the 2 different types over the country, but I've been unable to find out anything short of driving around to dealers and looking under the hoods. I'm also curious as to the difference between the two- but nobody seems to even know there are 2 versions.
looking forward to anymore info showing up here!
I did some searching on the different smog scores on HCHs prior to buying ours and discovered there are 2 engine versions: the ...3YCV and the ....33A6 (which a honda site referred to as the "lean burn" engine).
the 3YCV has the better smog score and is sold in ca & ny. it's also a AT-PZEV not ULEV, which I think is a lower level of emissions too.
When I asked my dealer "which engine does it have" he told me "the 1.3L" and I said "yes, but which one?" and he thought I was nuts. dealer didn't know anything about different versions. the only way I've been able to discover which engine a particular car has is look under the hood at the emission sticker; about half way down you'll see the engine type in the middle of a string of numbers. (I've got a 3YCV)
I am very curious about distribution of the 2 different types over the country, but I've been unable to find out anything short of driving around to dealers and looking under the hoods. I'm also curious as to the difference between the two- but nobody seems to even know there are 2 versions.
looking forward to anymore info showing up here!
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