ICE starts & stops
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ICE starts & stops
Folks:
Recently I've observed some somewhat odd behavior in my 2005 FEH ...
When I'm coming off the expresway, and I'm coasting down the exit ramp, the ICE will shut off (as I would expect it to) ... but as I apply the brakes to slow down, the ICE will turn on again, and then shut off about 20 seconds later after I stop.
The battery is fully charged, as the ICE had been running when I was at highway speeds.
Not sure if it's a problem, possibly related to the outside temp, or what.
Any thoughts?
david
Recently I've observed some somewhat odd behavior in my 2005 FEH ...
When I'm coming off the expresway, and I'm coasting down the exit ramp, the ICE will shut off (as I would expect it to) ... but as I apply the brakes to slow down, the ICE will turn on again, and then shut off about 20 seconds later after I stop.
The battery is fully charged, as the ICE had been running when I was at highway speeds.
Not sure if it's a problem, possibly related to the outside temp, or what.
Any thoughts?
david
#2
Re: ICE starts & stops
Since the battery is fully charged, touching the brakes cannot cause the regenerative brakes to operate. Instead, the engine is turned with no/little fuel used in order to slow the car with the load from engine compression.
#3
Re: ICE starts & stops
Same thing happens to my 05HCH. When the battery is fully charged and especially during colder weather, no regen occurs when I apply brakes. Only after the IMA is used for a few minutes will it begin to recharge the batt's again.
#4
Re: ICE starts & stops
Originally Posted by Jim
Since the battery is fully charged, touching the brakes cannot cause the regenerative brakes to operate. Instead, the engine is turned with no/little fuel used in order to slow the car with the load from engine compression.
david
#5
Re: ICE starts & stops
Originally Posted by dmgibbs
In that case, shouldn't it just use the brake pads?
david
david
In both of mine, when I decel in L the ICE will come on while in D it usually won't in the situation you descibed.
#6
Re: ICE starts & stops
Originally Posted by dmgibbs
In that case, shouldn't it just use the brake pads?
david
david
So the brake pads aren't needed in this case unless you ask for a quicker stop than is possible from the (software-limited) engine/generator braking.
#9
Re: ICE starts & stops
The reason for using the engine to brake is probably safety. If you just use the brake pads and its a long enough slope (more than an entrance ramp surely) you can heat up the brakes enough to damage them, warp the rotors, or worse yet as I've heard described on CarTalk, boil the brake fluid causing the brakes to fail completely.
All cars use the engine to slow down (or in our case the motor). In fact in manual transmissions you are taught to downshift when slowing down on a grade, NOT to just hold the clutch in and brake.
All cars use the engine to slow down (or in our case the motor). In fact in manual transmissions you are taught to downshift when slowing down on a grade, NOT to just hold the clutch in and brake.
#10
Re: ICE starts & stops
Originally Posted by ralph_dog
Only after the IMA is used for a few minutes will it begin to recharge the batt's again.
Anyway, yes, this has been discussed before. Two of the better threads (IMHO):
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...-off.4347.html
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...ging.4281.html
And yes, this is perfectly normal and healthy.
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