HV Battery Self-discharge Rate

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Old 08-20-2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wptski
So, if they aren't any good why are they switching to Li-Ion? They are way easier to charge. I have a 1600mAH 17670 Li-Ion cell in a SureFire U2 Ultra flashlight for over two years without recharging and it still works. I have Li-Ion cells in other custom made LED flashlights with the same results.
Do you discharge and recharge your LED flashlights 10 to 50 times per day?
My hybrid car does that with the current NiMH.

I'm just saying NiMH - Proven to work
Li based - Unproven
 
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RayP
SureFires are great, aren't they? Even the protected cells have a discharge rate of <3% per month, so after 2 years they should still have some life left. Unprotected cells are <<1% but of course they can explode on you if you aren't careful during charging, and are too easy to damage with over-discharging...
Yes, they are unprotected cells. Li-Ions aren't that bad it's the Li-Poly that one has to worry about.

I have a SurFire KL4, using two CR123As but the rest are all McGizmo PRs, PR-Ts, Aleph1, 2 or 3s with two stage caps. I forgot most of the terms like BadBoys, etc. I was a 5W LED fan and they work good as hand warmers too!

I have a MagLite converted with a 5W LED. Take a dead cells out of a MagLite, drop them in and when it starts to strobe those suckers are bone dead! Used it when I was working and had to get a lense diffuser in order to use it for the close-up mechanical they I did.
 
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:51 PM
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Do you discharge and recharge your LED flashlights 10 to 50 times per day?
My hybrid car does that with the current NiMH.

I'm just saying NiMH - Proven to work
Li based - Unproven
The name of this thread which you started is, what?? Discharge and that's what I replier to! Maybe you ought to start a new thread about D/C of Li-Ion cells?

Do you actually think that these Li-Ion packs aren't being cycle tested as the Ni-MH packs were?
 
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: HV Battery Self-discharge Rate

Parked for 20 days.

The SOC reported, displayed over the CAN bus, dropped 6.2% in 20 days.

Parked at 52.7%.
At first key turn to "on" without starting: 46.5%.

Just another data point.
Build date was in 12/2004 and I have over 117,000 miles.
 
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