Ford Escape MPG
#11
Re: Ford Escape MPG
If it helps, in addition to the techniques that were mentioned above, I had to learn how to hold my foot on the accelerator. When driving a consistent speed, there are two positions of note on the accelerator. The first is the point at which any more gas would cause you to accelerate. The second is the point where any less gas would cause you to slow down. I had previously been driving on the first. Learning to drive on the second made a big difference. And personally I think the cruise control drives on the first and doesn't get as good of mileage as it should.
Although mine is a 4wd, and I expect lower mileage than you, it took me quite a while (~20k miles) to figure out how to drive it. I should note that no matter how good you are at these techniques, short trips will kill your mileage.
Good luck!
Although mine is a 4wd, and I expect lower mileage than you, it took me quite a while (~20k miles) to figure out how to drive it. I should note that no matter how good you are at these techniques, short trips will kill your mileage.
Good luck!
#12
Re: Ford Escape MPG
A couple of things.. MMoony Suggested that I put the cruise on 60 and reset the ave mpg thingy. So I decided to to that, I got on 101 and headed south. set the cruise to 60 and pressed reset on the ave mpg thingy.
I was over 30 going to cochrane rd, but not by much, also found out that you lose more going up the hills then you gain coming back down the other side.
Also I had never touched that button before, and thought I had read the book completely so I was amazed to find the mpg moving around so much. When I got the FEH it said 12, and I been watching it slowly move up over the past 10 months, and after it got to 28.4 it can go down to 28.2 and up to 28.6. so I figured that was my average over the life of the FEH.
So MMoony where did you get that info on the button, and does it really retrain the computer? Or does it reset the ave so you see what you are doing now. So if I want to take a trip to LA, do I press that in the garage before I leave, to get my average for the trip. or will I be retraining the computer again.
So anyway, coming back I took Monterey highway... much move level road than 101 and my average coming home was 38.
Something else I noticed from my little trip. It does seem to get better mpg on the highway than the city even with the electric helping everytime you pull away from a traffic light you can see that mpg drop a tehth or two. and YES I know if it were not for the hybrid system it would be worse. Hey, I am ready for a plug in hybrid.
BUT from the systems I see out there, 12 k to 36 k and void the ford warrenty... OUCH... I am not a rich man.
Lets see what GM has to offer next year with the Saturn plug in from the factory.
But don't get me wrong love my Escape. If My company I am starting kicks off well, I will use FEH as my company trucks, and will put the kit on them for plug in.... My company is going to be a solar company,,,, I have to right!!!!
Later
Phillip
I was over 30 going to cochrane rd, but not by much, also found out that you lose more going up the hills then you gain coming back down the other side.
Also I had never touched that button before, and thought I had read the book completely so I was amazed to find the mpg moving around so much. When I got the FEH it said 12, and I been watching it slowly move up over the past 10 months, and after it got to 28.4 it can go down to 28.2 and up to 28.6. so I figured that was my average over the life of the FEH.
So MMoony where did you get that info on the button, and does it really retrain the computer? Or does it reset the ave so you see what you are doing now. So if I want to take a trip to LA, do I press that in the garage before I leave, to get my average for the trip. or will I be retraining the computer again.
So anyway, coming back I took Monterey highway... much move level road than 101 and my average coming home was 38.
Something else I noticed from my little trip. It does seem to get better mpg on the highway than the city even with the electric helping everytime you pull away from a traffic light you can see that mpg drop a tehth or two. and YES I know if it were not for the hybrid system it would be worse. Hey, I am ready for a plug in hybrid.
BUT from the systems I see out there, 12 k to 36 k and void the ford warrenty... OUCH... I am not a rich man.
Lets see what GM has to offer next year with the Saturn plug in from the factory.
But don't get me wrong love my Escape. If My company I am starting kicks off well, I will use FEH as my company trucks, and will put the kit on them for plug in.... My company is going to be a solar company,,,, I have to right!!!!
Later
Phillip
I reset that button at fill-up with my Navi and my EB Exployer on the dash. It just begins a new average everytime you reset it. On both vehicles, you can use the reset do determine instant MPH at a given moment. I did alot of testing the FEH for acceleration with different RPM's to find the best FE, and the Scangauge and the navi are almost exactly with there readouts. The data on the dash only hold its average for about 10 hours of driving, and then starts dropping old data for the current data being added. The Scangauge retains enough data for more than a few tanks of gas.
If you want additional information on driving for better MPG, I wrote an Article for http://www.cleanmpg.com/ and the direct link to that article is http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=350. I did a steady state speed comparison with both the Cruise and my foot which is in that article as well as other techniques that can improve your mileage if your interested.
Salsbr good point, I used that technique every minute while at a steady state speed with great results. Just look at the tach when you back off the accelerator and still maintain your speed.
GaryG
#13
Re: Ford Escape MPG
Phillip:
Re-setting the average mpg thingy doesn't help to program the computer, the 8 plus mile run at 60 on a flat road with the cruise control on does.
The computer takes the opportunity to re-calibrate itself.
I figured two things would occur. One, you'd see better than 28 mpg average and two, if you were out of calibration, the 8 miles would re-calibrate the system.
The calibration story is in the owners manual.
MM
Re-setting the average mpg thingy doesn't help to program the computer, the 8 plus mile run at 60 on a flat road with the cruise control on does.
The computer takes the opportunity to re-calibrate itself.
I figured two things would occur. One, you'd see better than 28 mpg average and two, if you were out of calibration, the 8 miles would re-calibrate the system.
The calibration story is in the owners manual.
MM
#14
Re: Ford Escape MPG
I think I saw one a while ago...
#15
Re: Ford Escape MPG
Also I had never touched that button before, and thought I had read the book completely so I was amazed to find the mpg moving around so much. When I got the FEH it said 12, and I been watching it slowly move up over the past 10 months, and after it got to 28.4 it can go down to 28.2 and up to 28.6. so I figured that was my average over the life of the FEH.
So MMoony where did you get that info on the button, and does it really retrain the computer? Or does it reset the ave so you see what you are doing now. So if I want to take a trip to LA, do I press that in the garage before I leave, to get my average for the trip. or will I be retraining the computer again.
So anyway, coming back I took Monterey highway... much move level road than 101 and my average coming home was 38.
Something else I noticed from my little trip. It does seem to get better mpg on the highway than the city even with the electric helping everytime you pull away from a traffic light you can see that mpg drop a tehth or two. and YES I know if it were not for the hybrid system it would be worse. Hey, I am ready for a plug in hybrid.
Something else I noticed from my little trip. It does seem to get better mpg on the highway than the city even with the electric helping everytime you pull away from a traffic light you can see that mpg drop a tehth or two. and YES I know if it were not for the hybrid system it would be worse. Hey, I am ready for a plug in hybrid.
#17
Re: Ford Escape MPG
Also, it should be noted that the fuel economy reported by the vehicle computer is on the high side. By my calculations, the NAV reports MPG about 2-3mpg higher than my manual logs. Lifetime, my average is about 28mpg....the average of the NAV reported numbers is about 29mpg.
#18
Re: Ford Escape MPG
...don't forget that the regenerative braking system wont engage if the car is in 'neutral' (the car is forced to use the disk brakes instead). So you want to pop back into Drive or Low when hitting the brakes.
#19
Re: Ford Escape MPG
WOOOO HOOOO !!!!
last fillup............. 31.88 MPG
Took most of the advice I got, and did my own thing as well.
1. No heavy acceleration, I get up to speed, but I don't stomp it.
2. I take slower roads when I have the time, city street instead of freeway or expressway. OH, it it hard some time, but on the freeway, I set the cruise for 65 or 70 and just let the cars zoom by.
3. I also try to keep the short trips to a min. Man the warm up part of the drive eats gas... big time. Ride my bike for my Starbucks.
4. I have gotten pretty good at coasting, but coasting in gear. Neutral coasting does not charge the battery, and sooner or later it will charge, and that means ICE, unless you can do it at breaking and coasting.
I think the biggest thing was the advice to let the computer retune the engine.
Thanks !!!!
So now we have a monthly 2 am run to morgan hill and back... only time you can catch all the lights green. Monterey highway is pretty level.
last fillup............. 31.88 MPG
Took most of the advice I got, and did my own thing as well.
1. No heavy acceleration, I get up to speed, but I don't stomp it.
2. I take slower roads when I have the time, city street instead of freeway or expressway. OH, it it hard some time, but on the freeway, I set the cruise for 65 or 70 and just let the cars zoom by.
3. I also try to keep the short trips to a min. Man the warm up part of the drive eats gas... big time. Ride my bike for my Starbucks.
4. I have gotten pretty good at coasting, but coasting in gear. Neutral coasting does not charge the battery, and sooner or later it will charge, and that means ICE, unless you can do it at breaking and coasting.
I think the biggest thing was the advice to let the computer retune the engine.
Thanks !!!!
So now we have a monthly 2 am run to morgan hill and back... only time you can catch all the lights green. Monterey highway is pretty level.