FEH battery in a Honda Insight?

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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by D-mac
I'm not an engineer but I think there is confusion here about the differences between amp-hours, amperes, and volts. On a more conceptual level, there are big differences between power demands and storage capacities of a 4000 pound FEH and an Insight that weighs about half as much and is much more aerodynamic.
I'm using the Insight in charge depleting mode and plugging it in at night. The Insight's stock pack is plenty large enough for a charge sustaining hybrid, but it makes for a pretty weak PHEV.

@gpsman: You've seen the FEH cells? Do the sticks run fore/aft or left/right, and how many cells tall is the pack?
 
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mdgates
Bill,

Evidently not always. http://www.hybridcars.com/gallery/22070/photo?page=2

Besides, 275 cells is an odd number of sticks of 5, which would place your output terminals at opposite ends of the pack.



So what am I looking at here, besides an enormous, inexpensive battery? I see the inverter on the right and ductwork at the rear of the car. Do the sticks run fore/aft or left/right, and how many cells tall is the pack?
Packs come in many different configurations, not just a stick type. So what if the positive is at one end and the negative is it the other! Many packs are that way. Automobile manufacturers didn't invent battery packs. They seem to be trailing behind the RC'rs.
 
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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An odd number of sticks would place the output terminals at opposite sides of the pack, creating a needless two foot long piece of high voltage, heavy gauge cable. Ford (or Panasonic, or Mitsubishi, or whoever) is not that dumb.
 
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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They are arranged from left to right.
They are in 2 layers.

I believe there are 120 cells on the bottom later, 130 cells on the top layer.
Both layers have 2 rows.

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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mdgates
An odd number of sticks would place the output terminals at opposite sides of the pack, creating a needless two foot long piece of high voltage, heavy gauge cable. Ford (or Panasonic, or Mitsubishi, or whoever) is not that dumb.
My calculation of a odd number cells was based on what FEH owners here have mentioned numerouse times, a 330V pack which now I'm unsure where that even comes from since Ford refers to it a rather non-standard way of 216-397V.
 
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