The very next time the media wants to interview me on hypermiling because of gas prices, I must report this issue. I'm sick and tried of this BS by Ford!

GaryG

 

A bit OT but if Ford's Hybrid Warrenty states, 8years/100K on parts unique to the Hybrid which this thread is all about. How come nobody(unless I missed or don't remember reading about it) is complaining about the MECS pump not being covered? I don't think that it's covered under the 8Y/100K warranty or is it?

 

Get the actual quote of the warranty language...it doesn't say what you think it does.

 

The 8Y/100K unique Hybrid parts is what's mentioned in the Hybrid Warranty PDF.

 

Once again, you need to actually read it. For a 2006:

"Escape Hybrid/Mariner Hybrid Unique Component Coverage
The New Vehicle Limited Warranty covers certain Escape
Hybrid/MarinerHybrid unique components against defects in factorysupplied
materials or workmanship for eight years after the warranty
start date or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.
Ford Motor Company or Ford Motor Vehicle Assurance Company covers
these components: high-voltage battery, electronically controlled continuously
variable transmission, and the DC/DC converter.
NOTE: some components may also be covered by the Emissions Warranties.
For more information, see pages 12-20."

It covers CERTAIN (not all) hybrid related components and then lists the three that are actually covered: the HVTB, the eCVT and the DC/DC converter.

 

I was refering to this this document for the 2012MY Hybrids: http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...idWarranty.pdf. Funny somethings covered on the Fusion aren't covered on the Escape.

 

Again, and this is from your link, not all unique hybrid components are covered, just the listed ones. You are reading the language on the bottom of page 9, but ignoring where it continues over to page 10. Here is the entire relevant part:

"(4) Your vehicle’s unique components are covered during the Hybrid
Vehicle Unique Component Coverage, which lasts for eight years or 100,000miles, whichever occurs first.

The following parts are covered during this extended coverage period:
high-voltage battery, continuously variable transmission and the DC/DC
converter. In addition, the high-voltage battery connector, battery pack
fan assembly, thermister probe, hybrid battery pack sensor module
(HBPSM), and the battery energy control module (BECM)."

The MECS pump, which is the part you initially questioned, is not listed and, therefore, not covered.

 

I'm not ignoring anything and you may have noticed, don't even own a Hybrid. The document shouldn't say as it clearly does on one page "8Y/100K for unique Hybrid components" yet later on contradict that. They should have a note added there.

If you have similiar wording for the 2006MY and the battery pack fans aren't listed, you lost your case.

 

Absolutely not. The 2012 doesn't have internal cooling fans that are part of the HVTB as do the 2006 models. That is why the 2012 deals with them differently. There are MUTIPLE references in the 2006 Ford service manual specifically stating these cooling fans are "part of the HVTB". That would not hold true for a 2012, because those fans are external to the battery pack.

 

I don't believe one can use the service manual as a warranty guide when it comes to the use of terms. For instance, look up 4WD or AWD, those two are flip flopped back and forth. The same exact system in a Fusion is tagged as AWD but 4WD in the Escape. People will argue that they have an AWD Escape but really it's a form of 4WD and the same for the Fusion.

What is a battery or battery pack? More than one cell connected together and that's it.