2009 FEH wrench light P0A7C
I'm in good company in this thread. My p0a7c code was coming after an hour driving in 80 degree weather. Then I swapped in a motorcraft MECS pump. Now I get the code after 15 mins of freeway driving after a cold start. It's a good thing I live in major city.
Wondering if we've ruled out a good vacuum filling being a partial solution to allow for more range at least.
Wondering if we've ruled out a good vacuum filling being a partial solution to allow for more range at least.
I'm in good company in this thread. My p0a7c code was coming after an hour driving in 80 degree weather. Then I swapped in a motorcraft MECS pump. Now I get the code after 15 mins of freeway driving after a cold start. It's a good thing I live in major city.
Wondering if we've ruled out a good vacuum filling being a partial solution to allow for more range at least.
Wondering if we've ruled out a good vacuum filling being a partial solution to allow for more range at least.
Well the dealer just quoted me $900 saying the problem is the MECS pump I already replaced with a Fomoco OEM one. I'm going to talk to them tomorrow about assurances or are they going on a hunch.
The problem is not the MECS pump. It was the first thing I replaced and I can verify good function for both the original (mine's a '12 with the revised pump already standard) and new one. Also don't let them charge you that much - it's a very easy home job (30 minutes) and I think maybe a 100 dollar part?
I have done 2 vacuum fills - one specifically requested at the dealer (was the only thing I took it in for after swapping my MECS pump) and an another after buying my own kit to do a full coolant swap on both loops.
If there's bad flow in the MECS loop, it's gotta be a restriction somewhere else...but I seem to have plenty of flow rate and a very rapid Inverter Phase Temp drop when power demand is released, which would seem to indicate contact and flow are at least ok.
Still don't know what exactly is tripping the error as reported temps are always different when it happens....without knowing the problem component or sensing method, it's been very hard to trace any further. I might be at the point of peeling the cover off the inverter housing to see if there's crust or something built up on any components I can see in there (shrug).....otherwise I am currently ignoring it for lack of any corroborating evidence that a real overtemp problem exists (reported temps seem acceptable, outer casings cool enough to touch, no change in electrical system performance or gas mileage)
If you had them run diagnostic, see if you can get your dealer to speculate on the actual component tripping the error. That's kinda where I'm stuck
I have done 2 vacuum fills - one specifically requested at the dealer (was the only thing I took it in for after swapping my MECS pump) and an another after buying my own kit to do a full coolant swap on both loops.
If there's bad flow in the MECS loop, it's gotta be a restriction somewhere else...but I seem to have plenty of flow rate and a very rapid Inverter Phase Temp drop when power demand is released, which would seem to indicate contact and flow are at least ok.
Still don't know what exactly is tripping the error as reported temps are always different when it happens....without knowing the problem component or sensing method, it's been very hard to trace any further. I might be at the point of peeling the cover off the inverter housing to see if there's crust or something built up on any components I can see in there (shrug).....otherwise I am currently ignoring it for lack of any corroborating evidence that a real overtemp problem exists (reported temps seem acceptable, outer casings cool enough to touch, no change in electrical system performance or gas mileage)
If you had them run diagnostic, see if you can get your dealer to speculate on the actual component tripping the error. That's kinda where I'm stuck
Last edited by EscapeFromLA; Nov 6, 2024 at 05:11 PM.
The problem is not the MECS pump. It was the first thing I replaced and I can verify good function for both the original (mine's a '12 with the revised pump already standard) and new one. Also don't let them charge you that much - it's a very easy home job (30 minutes) and I think maybe a 100 dollar part?
At this point, without any clear information about what the issue is I'm done swapping in pumps. If I can get assurance from the dealer that if the new pump doesn't work they'll keep at it without any cost to me then I'll pay the $900. Just to be able to drive on the freeway again.
I am wondering if you might originally have had one of the notoriously bad older pumps, fixed that with a new one, and are now in the same boat as the rest of us with mystery overheating component X
My operating theories at this point are:
A. There is more of that yellow crust I saw on my inverter hose fitting on internal components/channels that is effectively slowing heat transfer enough for inverter phase temps to spike momentarily (mine change very rapidly and think it's likely the OBD poll rate is too slow to show it all)
2. This error is being generated incorrectly (bad temp reading or calculation)
D. deteriorated traction battery is pulling too much current to maintain State of Charge and overheating generator/phase components (which would be a bummer because the only way I can thinkg to confirm this is replacing the traction battery)
...Or I guess other wear/bearing problems in the transaxle or PTU that are inducing extra drivetrain drag. I do have bearing noise I need to rule out, but I believe it to be the right front wheel and just need to find the time to put in the Moog steering knuckle I've had for 2 months already....but I'd be surprised if that's it since I'm still getting higher MPG than I was before changing fluids and tires
Last edited by EscapeFromLA; Nov 11, 2024 at 12:06 PM.
Anyone have any updates on this? I've talked to a handful of mechanics, including shops that work on hybrids. No definite direction so far. Chatted with a guy who has 4 2nd gen Ford Escapes. He told me that one of his four Escapes had the same issue. Wondering if that sample is indicative of the rate of the problem



